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Some tips on writing chord melodies
« on: January 06, 2016, 05:37:35 am »
I'd like to share a few tips on writing chord melodies that some of you may find useful:
  • Analyze successful tracks and save chords that you think sound good. Map these chords to individual keys in a tool such as Logic's chord memorizer or Xfer Cthulhu plugin. Play something on the keyboard until you come up with a catchy transition or progression.
  • Try reversing successful chord progressions from other tracks. This might give you lots of creative ideas.
  • When building layered stacks, use different instruments to play upper and lower harmonies. Using the same MIDI chords for all layers can muddy up the sound.
  • While it's common to use the lower chord notes to play the bass, try changing up the bass notes - you will be surprised what this can do to the chords!
  • The rhythmic structure of a chord melody is very important - make sure to play around until you find an interesting pattern.
  • Play around with the bass melody (add extra note transitions, make some notes longer than the chords, play bass notes where the chords are not playing, etc). This will make it more interesting.
  • When building layered supersaw stacks, getting the top end right is probably the hardest part (for me at least). Supersaws tend to be harsh in the high frequency domain, so cutting them off and adding white noise may help. Also, try adding a square layer - they tend to have a pleasant glow.
  • Ambience is very important. Adding reverb and vocal fills in the background can make a huge difference. When using a background reverb, don't forget to process it (saturation and EQ helps it stand out and sit better in the mix). While the usual jumping reverb trick works very well, sometimes it's better to add a wide supersaw layer in the background with a long release. Reverbs tend to sound muddy.
  • Increasing the velocity of the top notes may emphasize the lead melody. Alternatively, add a layer that only plays the topline melody. Try changing up the notes of the topline melody to make it sound more interesting.
  • When building layered stacks, don't overdo it. Check every layer to make sure it improves the overall sound.
  • Make sure to adjust the levels of individual layers. Sometimes a layer playing at a low volume can add texture and thickness, but can really mess up the mix if it's too loud.
Hope this helps!

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 05:40:37 am »
For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 05:53:23 am »
For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?
Actually it's not about music theory - I don't know any of it but I just use my ears to figure out individual notes when I hear a chord being played... but I know it's not easy for some people (I guess it comes with practice), so I'm assuming there're tools that can be used to analyze chords/progressions.  A quick google search gives some results, but I welcome any pointers from people who actually used any of those tools!

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 06:08:11 am »
For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?
Actually it's not about music theory - I don't know any of it but I just use my ears to figure out individual notes when I hear a chord being played... but I know it's not easy for some people (I guess it comes with practice), so I'm assuming there're tools that can be used to analyze chords/progressions.  A quick google search gives some results, but I welcome any pointers from people who actually used any of those tools!

Hey man, here is a site that has a lot of chord progressions and melodies of popular songs (And EDM songs), example

- https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/avicii/levels

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 06:16:15 am »
Merci

For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?
Actually it's not about music theory - I don't know any of it but I just use my ears to figure out individual notes when I hear a chord being played... but I know it's not easy for some people (I guess it comes with practice), so I'm assuming there're tools that can be used to analyze chords/progressions.  A quick google search gives some results, but I welcome any pointers from people who actually used any of those tools!

Hey man, here is a site that has a lot of chord progressions and melodies of popular songs (And EDM songs), example

- https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/avicii/levels

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 08:50:51 am »
Sometimes when I'm stuck on a melody, I'll use the various "scale" and "chord" MIDI effects in Ableton. Also swapping the order of those plugins can affect the outcome. If I end up finding some chords/progressions I dig, I set up a blank MIDI track with the MIDI effects copied into it, route the MIDI out to the synth I want playing it, and press record so it prints out the melody/chords I want.

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 10:13:26 am »
For those who want to learn music theory I suggest learning modes for some good chord progressions! I have a track where it is in the key of C but I use F as my root instead

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 10:38:15 am »
Im having some issues grasping the concepts of some of music theory is there any hints or tricks that help understanding these a bit better?

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 10:57:11 am »
Im having some issues grasping the concepts of some of music theory is there any hints or tricks that help understanding these a bit better?


@ EliteRezk what certain concept are you having trouble with? I could help you with some of them   :D

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 11:09:58 am »
I honestly think the best tip to (learn to) create melodies is to re-create existing melodies, all the time, 24/7, untill you do it in less than 2 minutes.

That's my way of doing it, I think there isn't really a "right" way to do certain things when it comes to making music.

I learned it because I used to make MIDI files for some forum back in the days, and I was always the first guy to upload a midi file of a certain song and then people would be all cool and happy and download that stuff.

Because of making midi files 24/7, I learned the piano roll thing really quick. I can write every melody in piano roll if I want to, and when I have something in mind, it's not a problem for me to find the right note. It became a habit over the years and i'm lucky to be able to create melodies this quick. No lessons, never played an instrument or whatever. Just made midi files. Thought this might be a good tip. It's also a really fun way to get insight on melodies and discover how they are made!

PS: don't use midi files. Do it yourself haha

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 11:13:32 am »
For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?

try the youtube channel point blank, they do track breakdowns where they show you how the artist made the track and wrote the chords, baselines etc.. its a good start in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoQXINSwuTGnOJ6zgG9j141GK6leuMHQy

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2016, 01:05:49 pm »
i always look for help here, if i need to learn something about music theory. i'm not a theory learner kind of guy, more of an example+practice. go check it out
i don't even need to explain you just got to try looking at a song and you'll understand clearly~ have fun

https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 03:10:10 am »
Thanks for the hooktheory website guys!  :)

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 08:23:47 pm »
+1 for hooktheory. That site is incredibly helpful for theory, and the library of songs they get is ever expanding. They also have a theory tutorial somewhere on there, so don't be afraid to try that out.

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Re: Some tips on writing chord melodies
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2016, 03:45:55 am »
Merci

For someone who doesn't know music theory that well what is the best way to analyze a chord progression from a track?
Actually it's not about music theory - I don't know any of it but I just use my ears to figure out individual notes when I hear a chord being played... but I know it's not easy for some people (I guess it comes with practice), so I'm assuming there're tools that can be used to analyze chords/progressions.  A quick google search gives some results, but I welcome any pointers from people who actually used any of those tools!

Hey man, here is a site that has a lot of chord progressions and melodies of popular songs (And EDM songs), example

- https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/view/avicii/levels