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Real instruments in the songwriting process
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:46:52 am »
how many people write their songs on another instrument and translate it to a DAW? do you work with a MIDI controller and find a chord progression or melody by playing it, or do you write in MIDI notes until something clicks?

for me personally, it's a bit of both. interested to see what everyone else thinks.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 04:50:33 am »
how many people write their songs on another instrument and translate it to a DAW? do you work with a MIDI controller and find a chord progression or melody by playing it, or do you write in MIDI notes until something clicks?

for me personally, it's a bit of both. interested to see what everyone else thinks.

Yeah, pretty much same as you. I do both. I play Tenor Saxophone in addition to keys, and it sometimes helps to come up with bass notes to support the pads.
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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 04:55:41 am »
I find myself most comfortable writing chords on a keyboard, but melodies I can go either way (though I find myself leaning towards the piano for very glidey portamento'd notes).

All my drum loops are programmed in Maschine. Kick/Snare gets dropped in on a grid, most other stuff gets played in live and quantized if needed. I don't think I could go drawing in MIDI notes on a drum rack unless I absolutely had to.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 04:59:37 am »
A large majority of my sketching happens in MIDI w/ Ableton's Grand Piano preset if I'm at a loss for ideas or at the very beginning of a track. Otherwise i kinda just start with a plugin and start futzing with waves and roll with it.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 05:29:51 am »
A lot of my drums and percussion come from me sitting down at a kit and just having fun. I don't actually use the drums I play in my tracks, I just use them as a guide for where I want things to go in my tunes

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 08:44:11 am »
I use a midi controller to get a certain chord progression going then I play around with inversions of the chords on the piano roll. You can get great results playing around with it!

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 08:46:52 am »
I always start composing on a piano. Well, a piano sound playing my MIDI keyboard inside FL Studio. It gives me a lot of freedom and I can record my ideas easily. I don`t do anything else until I feel the song is nearly finished.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 08:59:57 am »
I mostly start on the piano, sometimes on guitar. I write a basic chord progression and sometimes an ostinato or arp to go with it. Then i take it to Logic and fix it up in there.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 07:01:41 pm »
I have a degree in instrumental jazz studies so I can't really think without my sax or a piano.

That being said, piano is king! It's by far the best tool for writing in any style.
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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 02:02:53 am »
Piano piano piano. The piano is honestly your best friend when writing for any genre. Personally I sit down at the piano without anything in front of me and just start coming up with ideas. It's way easier to sit down and write an entire tune and then (using a MIDI keyboard) translate that into MIDI to work from your DAW. Even if you don't have a piano, it's always good to have some kind of instrument around to help with hearing new ideas and experimenting with your song.
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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 02:16:56 am »
I have a couple tracks where part of it started as a guitar riff, then I arranged it as a drop.

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Re: Real instruments in the songwriting process
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 03:50:07 am »
I almost always start my production cycle on the computer. Sometimes I translate things to instruments later, but the first draft is almost always on a piano roll.