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Stereo Separation
« on: January 13, 2016, 10:58:57 pm »
Hey!
I`m curious about your methods of controlling stereo image of your sounds.
What I often do is use Maximus. It`s a multiband compressor and each band has its own stereo separation knob.
I set low to mono, widen mid a bit and highs a lot.
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 11:06:24 pm »
I'm using the Stereo Imager on Ozone

All in mono below 100hz, a bit wide for the mids and the highs a lot too

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 12:16:19 am »
a basic width control does wonders for me. It controls how mono or stereo i want the material to be(pre or post fader). Couple that on your effect inserts, you can achieve and ever greater amount of control. The layers you get from having many things slightly less stereo piled up on each other gives a nice full effect. To me i t helps fill out some spaces that aren't used by instrumentation. This idea also is applied to pre insert effect panning (much like the haas effect you can send that source effected by the has to a reverb)

so control of your stereo is considered to me just as important as volume staging, and eq. The foundation that a good mix is built on. (as well as good source material but that's almost taste)
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 12:32:08 am »
I run my main parametric EQ in mid/side so the image can be tweaked throughout the frequency spectrum. Similar to your multiband method but with the benefit of being able to adjust the filter slopes as well.
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 12:32:21 am »
I think people got used to all kinds of "stereo knobs" so much they forgot the wonders of plain simple panning. :)
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 12:38:15 am »
I think people got used to all kinds of "stereo knobs" so much they forgot the wonders of plain simple panning. :)

hahaha 100% true. I'm coming from the mastering perspective, so by that point panning is more or less out of the question, but in the mix panning is your best friend.
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 03:42:39 am »
i sometimes actually tone down the stereo image of certain reverbs with Waves S1 Imager... works nicely when you want to give low-mid-heavy sounds a bit more depth/width without going completely overboard.

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 03:56:17 am »
I think people got used to all kinds of "stereo knobs" so much they forgot the wonders of plain simple panning. :)

Second and third this, very underrated!

Also, make sure you have stuff going on in mono as well, your stereo image won't sound wide if there's nothing in the middle.

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 05:47:05 am »
I'm using the Stereo Imager on Ozone

All in mono below 100hz, a bit wide for the mids and the highs a lot too

I never understood when people say that, is that happening real time , wouldn't it sound hollow on the mids/high

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 08:06:52 am »
I use Meldaproduction MStereoProcessor in very much the same way as most mention here above.

MStereoProcessor is completeley monocompatible, I really like that!

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 02:27:54 pm »
I'm using the Stereo Imager on Ozone

All in mono below 100hz, a bit wide for the mids and the highs a lot too

I never understood when people say that, is that happening real time , wouldn't it sound hollow on the mids/high

No man not at all...it actually makes the thing sound really tight. And it doesn't sound "hollow" or something on the mids/highs, cause you are only affecting the frequencies below a certain threshold.

I use a free plug-in called A1StereoControl and it works well, during the mastering I mostly use it to expand the whole thing just a tiny bit (like 115%) and I use it to automate between a wider and narrower stereo image in the course of the track.
It also has a built in "mono maker" for the subs, you can even set the threshold between something like 20hz and 500hz. Awesome thing especially for the price.

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2016, 06:25:56 pm »
I use a free plug-in called A1StereoControl

+1 for A1. The key is to only ever use small amount, don't get carried away or yes it will start to sound hollow, and god forbid it get collapsed to mono on a different system it will sound like everything has disappeared.
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2016, 04:28:32 am »
I just use a M/S EQ and do it as I go along on individual tracks.
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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2016, 06:52:45 am »
I just use a M/S EQ and do it as I go along on individual tracks.
I've also really started doing this. I fear like a couple of my productions have actually overdone it! But, it's brought a new level of clarity to my mixes as things sit in 'their place' in the stereo mix better now. Voxengo MSED is a great free little plugin for this. :)

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Re: Stereo Separation
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2016, 09:54:20 am »
I think people got used to all kinds of "stereo knobs" so much they forgot the wonders of plain simple panning. :)
What I don't get is how some tracks seem to have pretty much everything toward the centre, but in a stereoscope the image is quite wide.


As an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCvePDQeh18


In the track I'm working on I've panned things so that (in headphones at least) the panning sounds quite extreme, but the overall image is only registering as about half as wide as the track I linked to.
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