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Standard House-y FM Bass
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:02:27 am »
Examples: https://soundcloud.com/gorgon-city/warehouse-dub-free-download
https://soundcloud.com/dukedumont/wont-look-back

I've gotten presets for FM8 that sound sort of like this but usually a little harsher and I change it a little but it never sounds as "smooth" as some of the professionals have so basically i want to know

1) how to make one from scratch
2)why doing the things you do from scratch lead to it sounding the way it does
3) if its more processing after the fact or not

Can anyone help me learn something?


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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 05:43:10 am »
FM synthesis is quite unpredictable, my best tip is to actually deconstruct the patches you have. From what I can hear, there some pitch envelope going on and an osc with a quick decay modulating another one.

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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 11:05:01 am »
FM basses are quite complicated. I dont use FM8 but I use serum for FM synthesis. Its really playing with the combination of 2 sounds picking which will modulate to the other. Yes there will still be processing afterwards if you think you need. Personally would add a slight bit of extra distortion and eqing

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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 09:22:30 pm »
FM basses are quite complicated. I dont use FM8 but I use serum for FM synthesis. Its really playing with the combination of 2 sounds picking which will modulate to the other. Yes there will still be processing afterwards if you think you need. Personally would add a slight bit of extra distortion and eqing

When you say 2 sounds what do you mean by that? or do you mean more generally with FM synthesis as opposed to my specific sound I'm going for?

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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 09:44:11 pm »
One of the first tutorials I'd play around with  - Really helped me. This is a similar sound from a classic track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBZal5xa0wc
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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2016, 06:09:34 pm »
Hey Heymac,

I just finished a tutorial on one of my one basslines. I used FM-Synthesis to get it. Maybe it's the sound or the technique you're searching for.
Here's an example: https://clyp.it/ne2k4ijf

You can find the whole tutorial on my website -> http://www.alexryuk.com/how-to-get-the-bassline-from-open/

Let me know if I could help.

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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2016, 06:29:45 pm »
With sounds like this you can get quite far with only 2 FM operators (I dunno if that's the "2 sounds" referred to in another reply?)



That's a screenshot of FM8 running a patch not 1000000 miles from the 2nd example you posted.

The grid on the right shows that there's only 2 operators active; "F" goes to the output, and has a medium-length envelope; "E" is modulating the frequency of "F". It has a short envelope, which means there's lots of modulation initially, which dies away quickly. That gives the sound an initial "plucky" quality.

"F"'s pitch ratio (not shown in screenshot) is 0.5 which means it's an octave lower than default.
"E"'s pitch ratio here is 1.6667 which means it's a an octave + a 5th above operator "F"... that's important because the interval between E & F affects what harmonic series you get as a result.

I'd say if you can dial that in, and start experimenting tuning "E" up and down, and playing with the amount "E" modulates "F", you might get close. And remember, the pro's might be layering their FM basses with other sounds too.

Good luck!


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Re: Standard House-y FM Bass
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2016, 06:30:14 pm »
Jesus. That screenshot's huge.