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What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« on: January 10, 2016, 04:53:51 pm »
Never really thought about doing that but recently stumbled upon Tycho's music again. Just now I heard he adds white noise to most of his music and had no idea that was there before.

Do you guys add similar stuff? I was thinking of what an entire mix will sound like if I add a recorded room with background noise in it would sound like.

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 05:12:36 pm »
I think it depends on the feel of different parts of your track. For mellow, relaxed and peaceful stuff like Tycho's, having a sphere of white noise in the track does the right thing. Sometimes, though, it doesn't really fit. Especially when you really want to stress a certain element in your arrangement, whether it's a vocal part or the first bars of the drop. I think the best way to find out when it's beneficial and when it isn't is too experiment. It definitely connects to the track's mood and energy.

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 07:17:53 pm »
it just fills out the frequency spectrum more, and if you layer it with synths in kinda glues it together. it's all about levels though. some gentle white noise might do wonders for your but if it's even a bit too loud it can be overbearing. some white noise drenched in a cool reverb can also add some really cool ambience to a song

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 06:00:16 am »
the feels ! if the white noise is added on big room tracks, it'll create an impactful effect
if it's on something like tycho, probably for that old feeling or something

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 10:35:55 am »
In my pads there's always white noise. Makes it sound bigger.  :)

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2016, 11:47:45 am »
White noise will fill out the really high frequencies (10k and higher) in the frequency spectrum which will make the song feel really 'bright'. It is very commonly used in progressive house [Dubvision, Volt and State, Stadiumx and so on]. You can try a fun experiment and import a few tracks where you can hear white noise into your DAW, then, sweep with an eq and try to find a place where you can hear white noise the most. After that try pulling it down a few dB and then do an A/B test. You will notice that even with just 2 - 3 dB reduction, the song won't feel as bright.

Some artists use rides playing together with each kick instead of white noise. For example Stadiumx use 4/4 ride in most of their tracks to fill out the really high frequencies. Other artists might just use white noise but it's purpose is pretty much the same.

White noise effects like sweeps, crashes and impacts are pretty self explanatory.

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 12:26:10 pm »
White noise can really fill out the high frequencies effectively and make your track sound fuller. But use it sparingly and be careful, it is very easy to overdo it and make your mix sound too harsh, especially on playback systems that don't have the benefit of utilizing the sub and bass frequencies to balance out your mix, (i.e laptops, cellphones, tvs).

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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2016, 01:39:47 pm »
Some synths, like sylenth, can have pretty harsh high frequencies that don't sound too great.  Seriously, anybody just go ahead and play the init preset from sylenth and focus on the high frequencies... you might start squinting.  So cutting those and replacing them with a white noise can help clean up the sound and make everything sound a bit cleaner and more straight forward.  The Only Way Is Up by Martin Garrix & Tiesto is a good example of a track that utilizes white noise as the high frequency filler.  Audien also gave this tip in his video where he talked about creating the synths in his track Wayfarer. 

I think the most important mixing strategies to use when using white noise are:
1. High pass! I think a high frequency, hiss-ey white noise sounds best... theres a lot of mid and low in a white noise oscillator that can sound cluttered in a mix.
2. Level it as best you can! Sometimes you can get away with the white noise sounding very present in the song (i.e. the track I mentioned) but usually if it's leveled out evenly with the synths, it'll sort of blend in and help fill out the sound without being too overbearing.
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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2016, 01:42:12 pm »
Another quick note... make sure that if you want to use white noise as your high frequency "instrument", you cut high frequencies from things like your lead synths.  Making a lead that is very bright and pilling on white noise will make the high frequencies too harsh 9/10 times.  So go ahead and cut the highs on your leads... even if they sound "dull"... because adding in the noise ought to make everything nice again   ;D
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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 04:19:51 am »
It's a decoy for poor sound design and composition.

Although it can be handy with some tunes if you replace WN with crowd noises.
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Re: What are the benefits of adding white noise to your mix?
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2016, 04:33:36 am »
It's a quick way of accentuating parts of your track. For example, people often use it above chord riffs and leads. It adds a really strong sense of presence and clarity to parts by filling up the high spectrum, and since the human ear responds to treble fastest of all (Equal Loudness Contour), it tends to be the bit that stands out the strongest.

White noise works really well as an enhancer to many parts of tracks, even as far as bass-line top ends and as transient clicks on kicks in place of cymbals or other percussive strikes. It's getting to the point where it's a bit overused, though.
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