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HIGH PASS MADNESS
« on: January 10, 2016, 05:48:06 am »


Hey guys!
I'm 100% self-thought producer and I learned basically everything on the internet, mainly Youtube. And I still remember that almost every tutorials that I watched said that you have to cut out every single dB of low frequencies unless it is a bass or kick. But I couldn't understand why I should do so since I could definitely hear that It sounds much more rich when I did not high pass everything. I know that low frequency range is really important and can be messed up really easily if you're not careful enough. Also that's one of the reasons why you use side-chain.
But am I doing it wrong? Or it's just a myth?

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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 05:53:29 am »
Conflicting frequencies and headroom is the reason.
Stop overdoing shit. Stop downloading new plugins for the sake of it. Your fancy stereo enhancer won't make you any better musically, your hard work will.


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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 06:08:09 am »
It's not a myth, but people take it overboard. You don't always need to high-pass (sometimes, a shelf curve works better), and you don't need to high-pass drastically.

Another thing to note is that using a sharp/steep highpass often introduces phase issues. Not always a problem, but something to be aware of.
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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 06:18:24 am »
That cut in the picture is quite drastic. You're better off using a gentler slope, like 12db, if you'd still like a bit of weight left. That will help the sound retain some the low content and make it sound less 'thin'.

The high-passing is basically just done to ensure there are no unnecessary conflicts with the bass and kick. Some sounds can have an unexpected amount of low end (I'm looking at you, hi-hats) that's just not needed for the whole mix. Remember, try not to judge sounds in isolation; their place in the whole mix is much more crucial than what it sounds like when solo.
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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 06:25:04 am »
By the way, that is just a random picture from google lol. I use ableton eq 8

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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 10:23:00 am »
High passing is important because phase issues occur really fast in the bass area. This is because bass frequencies move slower and have more room to conflict with other sound waves.

To high pass while still maintaining the body, try to start with your low pass all the way at 0hz and then moving up slowly untill you can hear the body of the sound starting to dissapear. Then move it back a tiny bit. Most of the times this will get you a nice sound with body and no conflicts in the bass area.

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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 11:35:53 am »
Check out this video, I think that it might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MslNaNafyr4

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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 02:22:04 pm »
headroom headroom headroom
it's just that the lower the frequency, the bigger chance of it having more db. but dont overdo it as to change the sound. make sure the sound stays the same after you high pass that

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Re: HIGH PASS MADNESS
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2016, 12:27:18 pm »
Don't cut pads in breaks for example at 250hz and put a bass layer underneath. Many youtube videos show this and it makes the whole sound worse and more difficult to glue.

Cut the pads around 100hz with a gentle slope (12db) and then add a bass pad. It makes the break bigger. :-)
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