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Open vs closed back headphones
« on: January 10, 2016, 01:10:38 am »
Are open or closed back headphones better for producing/mixing?

I always hear people recommend the MDR7506 and ATH-M50X but are open back headphones like the Sennheiser HD 650 actually better for producing? I am using them in my room so having the noise leak out is not a concern. Obviously the HD 650 are much more expensive headphones but what about cheaper variants such as the 558/598 and just open vs closed headphones overall?

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 01:15:49 am »
open is as close to monitors as you're going to get. generally used for mixing monitoring

closed back has more isolation, but at the cost of....environmental effects, lets say. generally used when setting up mics in a loud recording space.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 05:16:45 am »
I recently switched to open back headphones (Sennheiser HD600s) and I wouldn't wanna go back for any production work. You maintain a sense of space within your current mixing environment and it really changes the way you listen to your work.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 08:39:00 pm »
The main reason to use closed-back headphones are if you need more isolation from the music in the headphones, usually because you're close to mics that are being recorded. The most basic example is recording vocals.

But if you're using the headphones more as monitors, and a bit of leakage doesn't matter, then open-back headphones tend to sound, well, more open. And they're usually more comfortable.

I've got some headphones here. The pair that gets used most often are the 250 ohm Beyer DM 990 Pro. I use a pair of ISK HD-9999's when I need more isolation. They're quite good and cheap, and close to AKGs.

The two pairs that get the most use for actual music production are the two least expensive. : )

Although, if I'm working under headphones at night, and composing and producing, the Audeze LCD-XCs give me the best results, in terms of when I fire up my monitors the next day, everything sounds about right, without having to retweek too much. But they're are quite a rig, and are pricey.

I use the 990s for more work in the studio, and then even hanging out and listening to music and watching movies on the iPad. They're very comfortable. I even fall asleep with them on sometimes.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 08:50:57 pm »
I use open headphones for production, but I've got a pair of closed ones too, for when I'm anywhere around other people—open headphones let in the sounds from outside, and they let out the sounds from inside. They're loud enough to disturb anyone in the same room.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 03:21:17 am »
The pair that gets used most often are the 250 ohm Beyer DM 990 Pro

Yep, absolutely recommend these. Perfect for monitoring, accurate sound, and very durable as well.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 03:23:52 am »
I recently switched to open back headphones (Sennheiser HD600s) and I wouldn't wanna go back for any production work. You maintain a sense of space within your current mixing environment and it really changes the way you listen to your work.

Yeah, I have HD600s too and they are phenomenal. I recently got Yamaha HS7s, my first studio monitors, which I was kind of enamored with for a while, but now that I have had them for a while, I honestly prefer the HD600s for mixing higher-frequency sounds. The clarity and the ability to hear small details is really amazing.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 12:31:10 pm »
open is as close to monitors as you're going to get. generally used for mixing monitoring

closed back has more isolation, but at the cost of....environmental effects, lets say. generally used when setting up mics in a loud recording space.

this is pretty much the TLDR explanation hahaha
so what exactly is the difference between the open and monitor ?

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 01:50:20 pm »
The most obvious difference is that with monitors, your whole body gets to experience the sound, not just your ears. The other huge difference is that monitors disperse their sound in the room, and you get reflections, and each ear gets a bit of the other channel.

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Re: Open vs closed back headphones
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 04:19:50 am »
for producing, as long as you can make your room quiet, you gotta go with open headphones (and monitors of course). I used closed for a while and then switched and it helped my mixing so much. It simulates space (in the way that monitors sound) much much much better which is important. It's also key that the open headphones you buy are relatively flat too.