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EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« on: January 09, 2016, 07:37:00 pm »
Hi producers!
I'm afraid that my question is not so simply but if you have some time, I would really appreciate read your thoughts, points, so...
I've been producing electronic music since 2009 but more seriously since 2012, but in someway I don't feel comfortable with what I'm doing as producer, which direction I should put my effort (I mean, take some genre or vertent mainly and make in my own way)
Since 2013 I've playing some gigs as DJ, and my main genres as DJ is Bass and House (Electro-House variations/Dubstep/Trap/DnB, general Bass Music, I don't mind about BPMs), as producer I have done some electro-house, dubstep tracks and stuff, but I don't know if is this line that I want to go, and my biggest problem is:
I listen lots of artists and genres that I like daily, and everytime that I hear some banger track independent of the genre (Progressive, garage, techno, trap, Breakbeat, whatever) I start to wonder ''and if I start to make some tracks like this?'' it's very involuntary and sometimes I feel that this ideas ruins my current productions, I start to lose interest in finish projects etc, it's very troublesome to me. Have you felt someway like this? have you already surpassed something like this? Please share you thoughts, I need some light, I still sitting in front of my DAW everyday trying do something, but that largest portion of these works I never finish, I've been running in this circle a few years already, particularly I don't think about quitting too soon you know, but I admit that it's very hard keep going.

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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 08:48:53 pm »
As a DJ, it's probably harder to make actual music. I believe that even you want to try making that particular sounds, you don't know enough of the genre/sound design used in it.

I think everyone at a point, need a break from music. You could use some and come back later. You won't lose anything, you'll clear you mind.

An advice, i could give you, is when you want to make "track like this". take it into your DAW and analyze it. What's the BPM ? What is the structure ? What are the sounds used ? How do I make them ? Ask yourself a lot of question. Take interest in developping the differents genres you like. Look at tutorial daily, etc...

If you're stuck and can't finish a track, ask for feedback/help. "What can I do next ?" What do the artist after that ? etc...

I hope this help ;)

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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 09:03:44 pm »
I haven't been producing long, but I'll give it a shot.
Not being able to finish projects and immediately lose interest in them is not something that is uncommon. Everyone who's been producing for a good a mount of time will have files with tons of unfinished projects. Unfinished projects are like a scrapyard, you can either turn it into something cool or use it to turn something into something cool. I used to constantly start new projects because none of them sounded the way I wanted, but I recently learned that it takes a lot of time to get my songs to where I want them to be. I think you're overthinking this a bit too much, just make the music you like and start a project. If you can't see it going anywhere, then start another one, and continue to do this until you're left with something you can be proud of.
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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 09:32:44 pm »
As a DJ, it's probably harder to make actual music. I believe that even you want to try making that particular sounds, you don't know enough of the genre/sound design used in it.

I think everyone at a point, need a break from music. You could use some and come back later. You won't lose anything, you'll clear you mind.

An advice, i could give you, is when you want to make "track like this". take it into your DAW and analyze it. What's the BPM ? What is the structure ? What are the sounds used ? How do I make them ? Ask yourself a lot of question. Take interest in developping the differents genres you like. Look at tutorial daily, etc...

If you're stuck and can't finish a track, ask for feedback/help. "What can I do next ?" What do the artist after that ? etc...

I hope this help ;)



Thanks Babasmas by the reply, so the point of ''I don't know enough about the genre/sound design)'' makes sense, but not in a ignorant/novice way you know?
Sound design isn't my weak in general but the fact of I can't follow some straight direction, makes that I don't go further, in depth in some genre and eventually I don't master certain sonorities,
but almost all the genres that I listen I can replicate, the characteristics, metric, timbres, mainly after I start to DJing.
You usually produces what kind of music? what is your state of mind when you decide to start some project? maybe I should pause a bit as you said but I can't see me breaking in this moment, I get very anxious to take some hours to produce daily, It's complex haha.

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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2016, 10:54:29 pm »
Thanks Babasmas by the reply, so the point of ''I don't know enough about the genre/sound design)'' makes sense, but not in a ignorant/novice way you know?
Sound design isn't my weak in general but the fact of I can't follow some straight direction, makes that I don't go further, in depth in some genre and eventually I don't master certain sonorities,
but almost all the genres that I listen I can replicate, the characteristics, metric, timbres, mainly after I start to DJing.
You usually produces what kind of music? what is your state of mind when you decide to start some project? maybe I should pause a bit as you said but I can't see me breaking in this moment, I get very anxious to take some hours to produce daily, It's complex haha.

You're over thinking a little to much man, especially if you're getting anxious before you produce. No need to force this, because it's going to take some time.

typically i have no idea what it is i want to do with a project, but i always start by making drums.

It also took me a solid 5 years to actually figure out wtf i was wanting to do? i eventually found my groove when i slowed down my music so that i could play the key board to it the bpm that is typical is actually double the speed i make my songs in. The feeling and the clarity is just there for me.

I also would have trouble piecing my songs together, even though i had good individual ideas.

you might have to analyze yourself a little more, and be introspective to actually get you to perform the art you want to do. gather information from any where and every where, and start analyzing and applying to see what works for you. over time, you'll get it easier and easier. but the problems become a little more complex at that point.
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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 12:33:56 am »
I feel you man, going through the same sort of thing. I'll be coming back to this thread for inspiration.

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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 12:47:11 am »

You're over thinking a little to much man, especially if you're getting anxious before you produce. No need to force this, because it's going to take some time.

typically i have no idea what it is i want to do with a project, but i always start by making drums.

It also took me a solid 5 years to actually figure out wtf i was wanting to do? i eventually found my groove when i slowed down my music so that i could play the key board to it the bpm that is typical is actually double the speed i make my songs in. The feeling and the clarity is just there for me.

I also would have trouble piecing my songs together, even though i had good individual ideas.

you might have to analyze yourself a little more, and be introspective to actually get you to perform the art you want to do. gather information from any where and every where, and start analyzing and applying to see what works for you. over time, you'll get it easier and easier. but the problems become a little more complex at that point.


Nice to read your overview man for real, I'll try get a new perspective in produce my stuff, because I'm serious about the anxiety part and I know that it all came with the pile of frustrations of not being able to put it out lots of ideas and/or not finish them through the years.

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Re: EDM Production, Genres and Daily Struggle
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 02:31:54 am »
I'm in the same boat man, trying to take some advices from the members here, good luck to you  :)