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How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:28:57 am »
Hi folks,

I know everyone has a different workflow regarding automation. But this is the most hindering factor in my workflow and it really ruins my time. Really I am getting now to the point that I want to switch daws just because of the way I use automation in FL..

So I was wondering, how do you guys do it? What are your ways in organizing automation in FL Studio?

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 01:31:24 pm »
Hi folks,

I know everyone has a different workflow regarding automation. But this is the most hindering factor in my workflow and it really ruins my time. Really I am getting now to the point that I want to switch daws just because of the way I use automation in FL..

So I was wondering, how do you guys do it? What are your ways in organizing automation in FL Studio?
With FL 12 comes the link between tracks. You can merge 2-3 tracks from the playlist into a group. If you do so, everytime you use a new track in the playlist for a new instrument, link the one below, and when you'll create an automation it's gonna appear there. (make sure to have no track upper empty.)
It looks like that :
[spoiler][/spoiler]
You can see on the left, that there's group of tracks.

What you also can do it, to "lock to content" every track in the playlist (Where there is something). So no automation will be putted where you don't want it.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 08:21:05 pm »
Honestly, best I can say is just take a second (or minutes) to reorganize. That's mostly it. Got two routes I prefer to go with. Literally just put all of it below the actually midi, patterns, and sounds. Or you can put anything automation right below what it's automating, link them, and shrink/minimize that clip. That's goodeenough for me at least.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 11:23:30 pm »
Hi folks,

I know everyone has a different workflow regarding automation. But this is the most hindering factor in my workflow and it really ruins my time. Really I am getting now to the point that I want to switch daws just because of the way I use automation in FL..

So I was wondering, how do you guys do it? What are your ways in organizing automation in FL Studio?
With FL 12 comes the link between tracks. You can merge 2-3 tracks from the playlist into a group. If you do so, everytime you use a new track in the playlist for a new instrument, link the one below, and when you'll create an automation it's gonna appear there. (make sure to have no track upper empty.)
It looks like that :
[spoiler][/spoiler]
You can see on the left, that there's group of tracks.

What you also can do it, to "lock to content" every track in the playlist (Where there is something). So no automation will be putted where you don't want it.

Good to see this forum is still maintaining my "learn something new each time I logon"
This changes everything about automation for me. Merci Beaucoup

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 07:41:53 am »
Hey there,

It's been a long time since I've used an actual forum, so I'm hoping that my posting format ends up looking okay. This is my first post here.

Snow, I too used to get destroyed by automation clips in my projects. I'm here to let you know that there is a better way to automate.

A disclaimer: I won't say I have a degree in Music Production, nor am I a definitive guide on Fruity Loops.

With that said, my early years of beat production started with very little guidance. It took me a long time to discover that there is no need to use automation clips most of the time.

In the next few images I will show you the wonders and beauty of the 'Edit Event' option that can be used for any parameter in Fruity Loops.

Step 1:Make a basic beat to work with. This way you can follow along and learn in only a few short minutes what I am talking about. Your projects and ideas of automation will change dramatically.



In this image I have made a basic 4/4 beat.


Step 2: Know what you want to automate. In the image below I will be automating the volume of the master track to give a nice 'fade in' effect to my project. However, this method works with every parameter in fruity loops. This includes the juicier things like parameters in NI Massive for precise dubstep wobbles, or whatever.



  • FIRST AND FOREMOST: Check to make sure you are in the right pattern that you want the automation to happen. In this example, I want my automation effect to 'fade in' on my first pattern, aptly titled Pattern 1.
  • Go to your channel mixer
  • 'Right Click' the Volume knob
  • Select 'Edit Events' in the drop down menu

This will appear on your screen:



As depicted, a piano roll will open that allows you to change the parameter that you have selected in what is called an 'event'. By default, this event is tied to the pattern that is currently open when you choose to edit an event. This is why I mentioned to double check and make sure you are on the correct pattern before editing an event. However, this is only for convenience. It is possible to change where the event occurs but it is much more convenient to choose the pattern that that you want to have the automation occur first. The 80% is a displayed value of where my mouse was sitting in the piano roll while I was taking the screenshot. This value will change based on where you place your mouse which is very useful for selecting specific values for your automation.


Step Three[/u]: Learn how you want the parameter to be automated. In the next few images I will show you the detail in which you can edit an event.



This image depicts a basic abrupt rise in volume over time.



This image depicts a manually entered 'smooth' rise up. It's not perfect, but don't worry. There is a better way to achieve perfection. It is important, however, to note that  a rise like this is possible to enter in manually, which is great for precise changes in a song.

Now lets see how this edited event looks in the playlist (song view).



Notice how the event is automatically tied to Pattern 1 and repeats twice in the playlist. This mistake is to display how the edit event automatically ties the event to the pattern that is open when you edit an event. All patterns after the event (i.e. pattern 2 and pattern 3 in this example) will assume the last value given to the parameter at the end of the event sequence

Because the edit event works with the piano roll, all of the changes in the event are based around the same divisions in time that normal musical notes are (whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, sixteenth notes, etc. etc.) This allows excellent detail for some parameters, and not enough detail for others. In comparison, if we were to do the same exact effect using an automation track, we would seamlessly change the volume of the track from 0%-100% using every single number between 0 and 100 in an even sequence. This same even sequence can be achieved in the edit event function but would have to be meticulously entered manually if there weren't a few tricks I'm about to show you.

Step Four: Tools are your friends. In the images below, I will show you how I can achieve the same precision that an automation clip would have if I were automating the volume knob at the beginning of the track, rather than using the edit event function. To achieve this, I will use the 'Tools' given to me at the top of the piano roll window.



Select the 'Tools'. For the effect, I want to use an LFO.



I've selected some values that work well for the effect I'm trying to achieve. Using this LFO function allows to customize the rate of change in the parameter with little error. Instead of me picking out each individual value (0-125), FruityLoops automates this process for me by using the LFO tool.



So, you're probably thinking, "Okay, I get it. But that's a lot of work just to have the volume fade in to the track." To which I respond, 'Don't be lazy or don't make music.'

But I'm kidding. Actually, I'm going to show you a more applicable use of the edit event function using NI Massive. I understand not all of us have a midi keyboard. On top of that, automation can be incredibly tedious and can totally destroy the creative process. Editing events is a great and painless way to play with how you want the synth to sound without having to pick and choose a value on an automation track over and over until you get it right (or totally give up).

Let's begin.

First, in order to reveal all the parameters for NI Massive, you need to make an editor thumbnail.



Next, you will hear a little camera sound and the FL Studio browser/plugin picker will open to the thumbnail you have just created.



These list of parameters are appropriately named and refer back to parameters (or 'knobs' for those who don't know what a 'parameter' means) in the NI Massive synth. For example, Macros 1 - 8 depicted above relate back to the macro knobs depicted below.



Learn what the list of parameters are (or don't and just pick and choose forever until you get the right one every time you need to automate something in a track). When you know what you want to automate, simply right click on the parameter in the editor thumbnail, depicted below. Then select edit event.




From here, you can revert back to steps 1 - 4. Most likely, you will get the most use out of Step 4.

I know this is a lengthy post and I hope that someone learns something from this. I hope it helps out the original poster as well as other people interested in the automation function in FL Studio. It looks like Babasmas has depicted what seems to be a better fix for the automation track problem in FL studio 12. I personally don't have FL Studio 12, and am sure there are plenty of other changes in that version as well. The version displayed in this tutorial is FL Studio 11. If you have any other questions feel free to reply or send me a message on here. Hope this is a good first post. Thanks all.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 08:02:19 am »
Hi folks,

I know everyone has a different workflow regarding automation. But this is the most hindering factor in my workflow and it really ruins my time. Really I am getting now to the point that I want to switch daws just because of the way I use automation in FL..

So I was wondering, how do you guys do it? What are your ways in organizing automation in FL Studio?
With FL 12 comes the link between tracks. You can merge 2-3 tracks from the playlist into a group. If you do so, everytime you use a new track in the playlist for a new instrument, link the one below, and when you'll create an automation it's gonna appear there. (make sure to have no track upper empty.)
It looks like that :
[spoiler][/spoiler]
You can see on the left, that there's group of tracks.

What you also can do it, to "lock to content" every track in the playlist (Where there is something). So no automation will be putted where you don't want it.

I do the exact same thing!
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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 12:18:00 pm »
Hey there,

It's been a long time since I've used an actual forum, so I'm hoping that my posting format ends up looking okay. This is my first post here.

Snow, I too used to get destroyed by automation clips in my projects. I'm here to let you know that there is a better way to automate.

A disclaimer: I won't say I have a degree in Music Production, nor am I a definitive guide on Fruity Loops.

With that said, my early years of beat production started with very little guidance. It took me a long time to discover that there is no need to use automation clips most of the time.

In the next few images I will show you the wonders and beauty of the 'Edit Event' option that can be used for any parameter in Fruity Loops.

Step 1:Make a basic beat to work with. This way you can follow along and learn in only a few short minutes what I am talking about. Your projects and ideas of automation will change dramatically.



In this image I have made a basic 4/4 beat.


Step 2: Know what you want to automate. In the image below I will be automating the volume of the master track to give a nice 'fade in' effect to my project. However, this method works with every parameter in fruity loops. This includes the juicier things like parameters in NI Massive for precise dubstep wobbles, or whatever.



  • FIRST AND FOREMOST: Check to make sure you are in the right pattern that you want the automation to happen. In this example, I want my automation effect to 'fade in' on my first pattern, aptly titled Pattern 1.
  • Go to your channel mixer
  • 'Right Click' the Volume knob
  • Select 'Edit Events' in the drop down menu

This will appear on your screen:



As depicted, a piano roll will open that allows you to change the parameter that you have selected in what is called an 'event'. By default, this event is tied to the pattern that is currently open when you choose to edit an event. This is why I mentioned to double check and make sure you are on the correct pattern before editing an event. However, this is only for convenience. It is possible to change where the event occurs but it is much more convenient to choose the pattern that that you want to have the automation occur first. The 80% is a displayed value of where my mouse was sitting in the piano roll while I was taking the screenshot. This value will change based on where you place your mouse which is very useful for selecting specific values for your automation.


Step Three[/u]: Learn how you want the parameter to be automated. In the next few images I will show you the detail in which you can edit an event.



This image depicts a basic abrupt rise in volume over time.



This image depicts a manually entered 'smooth' rise up. It's not perfect, but don't worry. There is a better way to achieve perfection. It is important, however, to note that  a rise like this is possible to enter in manually, which is great for precise changes in a song.

Now lets see how this edited event looks in the playlist (song view).



Notice how the event is automatically tied to Pattern 1 and repeats twice in the playlist. This mistake is to display how the edit event automatically ties the event to the pattern that is open when you edit an event. All patterns after the event (i.e. pattern 2 and pattern 3 in this example) will assume the last value given to the parameter at the end of the event sequence

Because the edit event works with the piano roll, all of the changes in the event are based around the same divisions in time that normal musical notes are (whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, sixteenth notes, etc. etc.) This allows excellent detail for some parameters, and not enough detail for others. In comparison, if we were to do the same exact effect using an automation track, we would seamlessly change the volume of the track from 0%-100% using every single number between 0 and 100 in an even sequence. This same even sequence can be achieved in the edit event function but would have to be meticulously entered manually if there weren't a few tricks I'm about to show you.

Step Four: Tools are your friends. In the images below, I will show you how I can achieve the same precision that an automation clip would have if I were automating the volume knob at the beginning of the track, rather than using the edit event function. To achieve this, I will use the 'Tools' given to me at the top of the piano roll window.



Select the 'Tools'. For the effect, I want to use an LFO.



I've selected some values that work well for the effect I'm trying to achieve. Using this LFO function allows to customize the rate of change in the parameter with little error. Instead of me picking out each individual value (0-125), FruityLoops automates this process for me by using the LFO tool.



So, you're probably thinking, "Okay, I get it. But that's a lot of work just to have the volume fade in to the track." To which I respond, 'Don't be lazy or don't make music.'

But I'm kidding. Actually, I'm going to show you a more applicable use of the edit event function using NI Massive. I understand not all of us have a midi keyboard. On top of that, automation can be incredibly tedious and can totally destroy the creative process. Editing events is a great and painless way to play with how you want the synth to sound without having to pick and choose a value on an automation track over and over until you get it right (or totally give up).

Let's begin.

First, in order to reveal all the parameters for NI Massive, you need to make an editor thumbnail.



Next, you will hear a little camera sound and the FL Studio browser/plugin picker will open to the thumbnail you have just created.



These list of parameters are appropriately named and refer back to parameters (or 'knobs' for those who don't know what a 'parameter' means) in the NI Massive synth. For example, Macros 1 - 8 depicted above relate back to the macro knobs depicted below.



Learn what the list of parameters are (or don't and just pick and choose forever until you get the right one every time you need to automate something in a track). When you know what you want to automate, simply right click on the parameter in the editor thumbnail, depicted below. Then select edit event.




From here, you can revert back to steps 1 - 4. Most likely, you will get the most use out of Step 4.

I know this is a lengthy post and I hope that someone learns something from this. I hope it helps out the original poster as well as other people interested in the automation function in FL Studio. It looks like Babasmas has depicted what seems to be a better fix for the automation track problem in FL studio 12. I personally don't have FL Studio 12, and am sure there are plenty of other changes in that version as well. The version displayed in this tutorial is FL Studio 11. If you have any other questions feel free to reply or send me a message on here. Hope this is a good first post. Thanks all.
I used to do that but it get messy when it comes to piano roll. Because I like to see every notes correctly. Although, this works perfectly too.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 01:47:53 pm »
@ Ah

Thanks for your detailed information! Will definitely try your method.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 04:35:57 pm »
In FL 11 (haven't updated yet to 12) I put all automation under the instrument it's connected with.

To move tracks around easily in the playlist, hoover over the name in the beginning of the track, press shift and use the mouse wheel to move the track.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 07:57:56 pm »
@ Ah

Thanks for your detailed information! Will definitely try your method.

I honestly wouldn't bother.

It's nice that he went through the trouble of putting together such a detailed tutorial, but the method he's describing is outdated and probably waaay more time consuming/headache inducing than using actual automation clips. Event editing was the way of automating stuff before automation clips were introduced. Therefore, automation clips were implemented with the intention of simplifying the process. Couple reasons why event editing is bad:

-Events, as mentioned, are locked to patterns. This means if you want to have a change happening over the length of more than one pattern, you have to make an entirely new pattern to then open the event editor and edit the events. An automation clip allows you to have something changing over time for as long as you want, and all takes place in the playlist.

-Event editing is imperfect and limited in its programming. Imperfections may be good for other aspects of music, but if you want a smooth change over time, manually entering what you want is not the way to go. And using the LFO tool isn't much help either. It's tedious, and you're limited to whatever shape the LFO has.

You could do everything you could do in event editing with automation clips, without most of the hassle. With automation clips, you could select from many different shapes by just right clicking on a point. You'll get a menu of different options that you wouldn't otherwise have in an event editor. The automation will progress smoothly every time. If you want to "draw in" the points like you would in event editing, select automation clips and select "step" in the top left corner of the playlist. Hold left click to draw and hold right click to erase.

Event editing might still be useful for some things (though I can't think of any), but saying that event editing is better than using automation clips is just really bad advice imho.

Concerning your issue... Here's how Madeon does it. In other words, there probably is no "best" way to organize automation. Yeah maybe color coding helps, but it's still kinda tedious to get everything organized in a way that's fun and exciting.

One tip I can give you is to have unique clips for different sections in your song, so in case you want to add a new section between two existing sections, you could more easily move those around without a shared automation clip getting in the way. Another tip is to notice the "slide" option that's on by default. It makes all other points to the right of the point you're editing move around on your automation clips. Turn it off on the the top left hand corner of the playlist. And yet another tip is to keep automation clips that are automating the same thing but on different places in your song on the same playlist track.

That's pretty much it. The rest is hard work lol. Definitely a lot less work than using event editing though.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 01:00:44 am »


Concerning your issue... Here's how Madeon does it.

Is that truly a Madeon flp screenshot? Where did you get it ?

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 05:56:31 am »


Concerning your issue... Here's how Madeon does it.

Is that truly a Madeon flp screenshot? Where did you get it ?

Yep! He posted it on twitter some time ago for his track "Technicolor." Although you can't see many details, it still gives a bit of insight into his workflow and organization. I think it's fantastic.

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Re: How to organize automation in FL Studio?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 07:51:11 pm »
In FL 11 (haven't updated yet to 12) I put all automation under the instrument it's connected with.

This is what I do. Sometimes there might be a pattern in between the two, but either way I make it so that it's not very hard to find.