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How to relate your emotions to your music?
« on: January 09, 2016, 08:22:22 am »
I've realized that it is extremely hard for me to say, "I made this song because I was (insert emotion)". Like, I am able to make music that I enjoy, but I do feel detached with my music on a personal level. I'm like 99% sure it's because I don't know squat about music theory (like, zero) and I simply make my music through constant trial & error, until I hear something I like. I don't even know what the hell I'm doing most of the time but something does come out in the end lol. Any tips on involving emotion to my music?

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 09:05:48 am »
I think it just has to come. You can't force yourself to put emotions into music. It has to flow naturally. 
You can set a goal of making a sad or happy tune but IMHO that's not putting emotions into it.
My music is trial and error too (even with basic theory knowledge) but I think after some time it will come itself and I'll be able to put emotions into my music without knowing it.
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 02:23:55 pm »
I think you should look more into music theory. Trial & error is nice and fun, but eventually you'll want to understand your music. Why does this song makes you feel certain way. I would suggest looking into chord progressions. There's a channel on youtube busyworkbeats, this guy explains simple methods on building chords progressions. That's how I started to look into music theory more and more.

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 04:39:13 pm »
Yea you definitely can't force the emotions or feelings in your music. However, knowing how chords & melodies work with each other is the best tool to express what you're feeling.

Not learning any music theory, is like trying to speak with a very small vocabulary. It would be difficult to express what you're trying to say in a language if you know very little words.
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2016, 05:28:06 pm »
Well, knowing music theory is one thing, knowing to put something down is another. Let me explain. As I can't play piano (but would love to), it's extremly hard for me to find suitable chord progressions. I always start by putting down the first chord and then spend 10 minutes on finding the next one (combining different notes and playing them together on my keyboard) together with trying to make it rhytmic. Most of times it doesn't sound so good.
I think being able to play it on piano/keyboard at once would be much more beneficial. You know, you would instantly hear if it sounds good or not. If not, you would just experiment, put your fingers on different notes and try it again. You would be able to play and record whole chord progression at once just how you feel it and then just make minor adjustments. Much bigger "chance" of incorporating emotions into melodies in my opinion.

As Steven said...
Not learning any music theory, is like trying to speak with a very small vocabulary. It would be difficult to express what you're trying to say in a language if you know very little words.
...with what I wrote above I just want to say that if you already know the words, it would be much better if you knew how to naturally combine them into a sentence.
I hope you get me, I'm not good at explaining.  ???
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2016, 07:13:39 pm »
In my late 20s when I went back to writing aggressive rock music, I had to dig deeper and think about what kinds of topics actually spurred the emotions that my music thrived on.

When I was in high school it was people I saw every day who pissed me off, frustration over my relative lack of freedom, etc.--stuff that was always in my mind, bubbling up to the surface day in and day out. As an adult, I don't think I ever encountered stuff that actually made me that angry, or at least not more than once in a blue moon.

So instead I started writing music about the stuff I was thinking about that struck me as interesting, and then I'd put an angry edge on it. For example I was thinking about the heroes I had as a kid (Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, etc.) and how now that I was the age they died at I could realize what total assholes they were, how they abandoned their families (and now that I had a family of my own I could appreciate just how fucked up that was) and how they stood for causes that are actually really destructive. In the future I could see myself writing a song about the failures of atheism, or the complacency with which people give up their own privacy online.

In a way the topics inspiring my music became less personal, though it was always still stuff I'm passionate about and interested in. The upshot is that I think my subject matter became much more unique and interesting (not that I ever wrote songs about girls or partying...). How many rock songs get written about this stuff?

Any tips on involving emotion to my music?

So to sum it up, don't think too hard about the emotions, and concentrate on the broader question of "what do you have to say?"
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2016, 07:39:25 pm »
I just want to say that if you already know the words, it would be much better if you knew how to naturally combine them into a sentence.
I hope you get me, I'm not good at explaining.  ???

I understand what you mean but I think you've got the analogy wrong. What you need isn't a bunch of music theory knowledge. You need to just listen to a lot more music, preferably lots of different genres, and you need to do it enough to where you can hum random songs from each of them in your sleep. (Think of it as practice for your ears.)

(Oh, and by "different genres" I don't mean both "house" and "trance"--I mean country, rock, gospel, Indian classical music, gamelan, mariachi, K-pop, and so on. Think WIDELY divergent!)

Music theory is useful if you want a vocabulary with which to analyze and talk about the technical aspects of music, but knowing it has absolutely nothing to do with making it easier to create music.

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2016, 08:02:46 pm »
I don't say music theory knowledge is a necessity. There are many people who make beautiful songs without knowing the theory. But as we are talking about getting emotions into our music, I just think it's advantageous to know at least some basics. It can only help.
On the other hand you are absolutely right about listening to different genres of music. I can't stress enough how important it is.
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2016, 08:21:57 pm »
I know very very little music theory and I don't feel like it has held me back creatively at all personally.

Being emotionally connected to your own music takes time, because it's got to be your music, and no matter how hard we all try, a lot of beginner producers are just imitators of other producers they like.

I'm not accusing you of copying or imitating, what i'm saying is you might not yet have truly found your own style which you are passionate about. This doesn't have to be entirely original; you could be insanely passionate about commercial EDM bangers for all I know, it just has to be what you truly love.

This might come about easier by listening to more music, or possibly by learning more music theory; I don't know. But I think once you are settled with a style you are truly passionate about and believe is truly yours, I think you will find it very easy to put the emotion into it :)

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2016, 09:23:39 pm »
Try making a song when you're emotional already, it helps to know basic chord and scale knowledge because then you can focus more on the emotional part .. Get a midi and play with chords when you feel real happy or real angry/sad and see what happens

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2016, 09:33:32 pm »
Also, world isn't black or white. A lot of people think about "learning the theory" as something you do once and then you just know it for the rest of your life. ...like driving. But it's not like that. You slowly get to know the basic and then discover new and new things, types of chords, scales, intervals in certain contexts and so on. It's more like cooking. You learn it continuousely all the time. So yeah, some theory can help you with transcribing the feeling, but don't think about it as a finite skill. That sense of discovery is one of that emotion too actually, one that you're probably transcribing right now anyway. :)
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2016, 11:28:49 pm »
When I'm trying to put an emotion into a song what I do is use certain sounds and effects that kind of give me that emotion. Not the entire song will be like that but maybe you have a pluck sound that gets really sad when its in minor chords with a certain flanger effect on it. Or samples. Also the arrangement and things for white noise etc. I have an interlude that I made and for me its pretty emotional because it uses rain that I recorded outside my window as the white noise in the background along with this epiano sound that I put lots of reverb on.

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2016, 06:02:18 am »
try to listen to songs that you really really really like, and try to analyze the "why" you liked it. it could be the production value/something similiar. but if it happens to be that you felt something bcs of it, then try to write/understand what that is you're feeling. after that proceed to : how it happened

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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2016, 10:23:06 am »
I think it comes naturally man. Usually in retrospect and then it starts to become intuition. When I'm getting that mojo to start writing I follow that 100%
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Re: How to relate your emotions to your music?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2016, 07:40:13 pm »
I actually suffer a mild case where I lack empathy and can't express or feel extreme emotion. Most of my music is just replication of sounds I hear every day.