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RosC

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I need some serious help mixing ride cymbals
« on: March 10, 2017, 02:09:36 pm »
Hey, so I've tried layering, EQ notching out the harshness (I high pass everything 8khz up) de-essing, but somehow my cymbals always sound harsh or really weak. Anyone care to share the magic?
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Re: I need some serious help mixing ride cymbals
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 08:33:37 am »
Spread them out over the sides so it's not that present in the mid, usually works for me. You could use any stereo widening technique as long as it sounds good.

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Re: I need some serious help mixing ride cymbals
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 06:44:48 pm »
There really is no magic, I hate to say, outside of possibly sample selection. If you get a good, high quality sample pack with clear recordings of ride cymbals or drum machines, it's just a matter of having it fit within the context of the mix.

The best advice I could give you would be to look for some songs that have ride cymbals as a prominent feature, and pull them into your DAW to analyze them. Put on a spectral analyzer and pay attention to how the frequency curve changes when the ride comes in. Use an EQ to try and isolate them. Most importantly, close your eyes and try to isolate the ride cymbals from the rest of the mix. See if you can pinpoint how they sound, and compare that with the samples you have. Think about what else is going on in the mixdown of those songs, and what they would have done to the sample to make it sound like that in that context. By studying that, you can find practical examples of techniques you can apply in your own sessions.

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Re: I need some serious help mixing ride cymbals
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2017, 12:59:33 am »
Try pulling down pins at the harsh frequencies- 1k, 4k, 6-7k
Accentuate the air 10-12k
And incorprate a compressor with a very fast attack and rhythmic release. Most of the harshness in a ride happens on the attack, so catching that but letting the rest of the ride live can help.

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Re: I need some serious help mixing ride cymbals
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2017, 01:28:54 pm »
I use voxengo analyzer to find any harsh frequencies.. but if all fails, like Mussar said you just need to find a better sample!!