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Sodosopa

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arranging 8 bars into a song
« on: February 26, 2017, 11:34:59 pm »
I always create 8 bars that sound decent but when i go to arrange i always have trouble building up to the 8 bars i've created and then adding breakdowns etc. and when i seperate sounds they usually sound bad without the other sounds playing as well (ex. lead sounds weak without bass playing). Attached is an example of 8 bars i've made, any suggestions how i could arrange this into a song would be wonderful.


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Re: arranging 8 bars into a song
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2017, 03:45:26 pm »
There are two main ways to try and arrange a loop into a song - you can try the subtractive arrangement technique, or you can study (or steal) someone else's arrangement.

Subtractive arrangement is where you duplicate out your 8 bars as many times as you need to get to a standard song length (3-5 minutes for a pop tune, 5-8 minutes for genres like techno and trance, etc), then you just delete whatever parts of your loop are not supposed to be in that section. The best video I've found for explaining this visually is this lecture/Q&A] NGHTMRE did at UCSD about two years ago. The whole thing is worth watching (i might actually re-watch it today, actually lol), but skip to 33 minutes in for the explanation on this method. If you have a really full loop but don't know where to go, this is often the easiest way to get you moving forwards.

The next step would be to start analyzing the arrangements of songs you like. [url=https://youtu.be/5HNxHIfL1eQ]This video
show show you can use blank MIDI/pattern clips and arrangement markers to dissect the layers and layout of your favorite tracks. From there, you can either use that to inform your song arrangement style, or you can just use the structure/arrangement without using any of the sounds - chances are no one will no the difference. ;)

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Re: arranging 8 bars into a song
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 05:01:09 pm »
I suggest starting the song with the drums, then adding the rest of the elements four bars after the other but thats just my opinion. You should probably just follow what you heart on this matter.