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How to add momentum to your songs
« on: November 06, 2016, 06:03:46 pm »
I've got the hang of writing melodies and arrangement and a variety of other things but I want to know how to make sure my songs have momentum (if that's the right word) because at the moment they sound quite static, robotic and boring.

Any advice?

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Re: How to add momentum to your songs
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 06:39:31 pm »
http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39706


Consider this forum topic.


I find that a lot of the problems associated with musicians and music producers (electronic namely) is that they might not considering the point at which they want to be, rather than where they are now. It's a tough pill to swallow and understand a current state, because that's mundane and you're doing it. so to alleviate that you think ahead of yourself and that might get you down.

what type of character and techniques you're putting into your music will have that sort of projection. If you automate the shit out of your project, quantize every little thing, tempo synch rhythmic effects and synth parameters, then yea you're going to have a pretty robotic sound with out a whole lot of wiggle room.

It can be good or warranted in some cased, but you really have to decide how you like things in terms of sonic/musical content, and understand how you need to get there.

That's a more poetic answer, based on what you've described and hinted towards.

if you're worried about maintaining energy in your tune, then that's an arrangement problem.

If you don't like what you've made, then that might be a confidence issue.

and to be honest, you wouldn't be worried about the "momentum" of the song, once you understand arrangement.

with the computer music and lack of live performance at hand, you're not actually working on maintaining energy while you're playing. So the energy is kept and maintain in different aspects with in the song and as the live performance shifts to a much different perspective.

Since you're not having to maintain the energy with a live instrument, the song/arrangement (maybe mix or w/e), carries much more weight in a live setting.

aside from what you posted, it's tough to decipher exactly what you mean and are having problems with because the question and topic at hand is very vague. It almost seems cherry picked from buzzwords and then assigned to what ever issue you're having.




You also have to understand the type of music you're dealing with, and understand the type of music you want to make. Then you will have to consider the tools you'll need (or some alternatives in the digital realm;made easy by computers) to get to the point that you can generate your own style with out having to deal with these small doubts (it manifests in lack of confidence, technical ability, practice, or physical ability if you're not of age to actually be able to perform the piece of music [think of small children learning to play]).

But in the case of momentum when it comes electronic production, it's seems to me that it's associated with arrangement. If you get tired after a certain point, stop that part and go into something else.

You also, could need to find a stopping point for the project. after you've listen to the same thing over and over again, you get fucking tired of it. Don't let that bias sit with you for very long.




TL;DR

this might be a arrangement issue or it's a time management issue that forces you to believe/think that this song isn't working the way it should.

it also might manifest it's self in the way you chosen to create the song via automation of effect and synth parameters, quantize, and lack of dynamics of individual notes and arrangement.

Consider all of the different angles of your problem, and see if they tie into one another. Then form a solution to help you over come these problems in the future.

remember the fundamentals you set for yourself in regards to your creative process, and you won't have problems like this exist (they'll still be there, but you'd have eliminated them quick enough for them to not manifest itself in the form of this particular forum post).
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2016, 11:30:22 pm »
If it's static, try changing up the way you arrange the structure of your piece. For example, try making a climax instead of just a drop.

If it's robotic, don't quantize or write your midi with a less precise snapping option.

If it's boring, you probably need to work on your melodic hooks. This skill comes with time.

Hope this helps.

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Re: How to add momentum to your songs
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2016, 09:19:53 am »
Personally, I like to modulate different tracks, and not always with pitch control. When talking about momentum I believe you are talking about energy. Maybe bring in some elements you played before and gradually tease them with different effects. Maybe it's double timeing a synth rather than a snare. This may be going way out there, but I like to listen to how energy builds up sonically in my everyday life and take notice to the different sounds I am hearing. That sports car coming up from behind or train swooshing behind could add some inspiration to your sound design and effects usage.

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Re: How to add momentum to your songs
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 04:26:32 pm »
Momentum is simple:

"Why should I keep listening?"