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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2016, 11:51:03 pm »
I personally just mix mine and then throw a limiter on, so I guess I don't really "master" either. However, when I send my music to mastering, they never really make any changes to it, only difference is that they probably drive it into an analog console to bring up the volume instead of my supposedly shabby digital processing.

Yeah I remember you telling me on Skype or a stream that all you need is Pro-L and mastering is done.  Really changed my approach to it all and that's what i've been doing ever since
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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2016, 03:45:58 pm »
I think the best example of no mastering has to be either Passion pit's first ep or Daft Punk's homework (which was mastered on a boombox)

Just the rawness really adds to the whole vibe, they both really feels like they've been recorded in someones bedroom somewhere.

Although SebastiAn's production is literally mastering based and its all compressed as hell
Doesn't stop it from being awesome tho
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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2016, 11:44:18 pm »
ive been using mark sherry alot. and usually i send a mastering "blueprint" (roughly mastered version by myself) to insure that what i get back wont be something out of the blue (bass vs drums relationship)
nothing more devastating then sending your demo to the mastering guys at the label you're releasing on and then you hear your track butchered on beatport

Fortunately, my label doesn't just send my tracks off to mastering and then uploads, they have me sign off on the masters. Can't imagine how disappointing it must be to find out your track is out in a ruined version.

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2016, 06:22:32 am »
You made a really good point on mixing. I'm totally with you about the idea of bad mixing cannot be fixed with mastering. However, let's say your mixing is really good enough to the point where you can just upload it on soundcloud or whatever. I think even if your mixing it that good, It's always a good thing to just add a couple things to make it sounds even better like a tiny little bit of a boost in certain frequency that you wanna highlight or a glue compression or something like that. Not to the degree of "mastering" with like a whole mastering bus but just a subtle finishing touches. I see what you're trying to take out though.

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2016, 01:34:00 pm »
I personally just mix mine and then throw a limiter on, so I guess I don't really "master" either. However, when I send my music to mastering, they never really make any changes to it, only difference is that they probably drive it into an analog console to bring up the volume instead of my supposedly shabby digital processing.

Yeah I remember you telling me on Skype or a stream that all you need is Pro-L and mastering is done.  Really changed my approach to it all and that's what i've been doing ever since

because mastering's not supposed to affect the sound so much (at least not as much as mixing)
i'm kinda curious about why so many people prefer Pro-L

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2016, 05:36:38 pm »
I think what needs to be kept in mind is that the definition of mastering has changed over time. Whereas back in the old days, mastering only meant making the songs in an album or collection sound good together, now it has shifted quite a bit. Of course, mastering has kept that old definition, but now it's more aimed to increase sound quality and to avoid listening fatigue. In my opinion (maybe not in Mat Zo's) I believe it's important to have at least some sort of basic mastering techniques that you do for each of your productions (be it a basic mastering channel or a step by step process to master your bounced file.) You will see that as you practice mixing and mastering more and more, your productions will be of higher quality in less time. Not only this, but keep in mind that mastering also requires a certain ear that can be developed with experience and time. Practice it and it will help you a lot!
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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2016, 12:27:18 am »
I don't know if this has been said already but in "Zen and the art of Mixing" the author highly recommends allowing someone else to master your work. It helps tremendously to get a second pair of ears on your work. Be careful however to not allow the Mastering engineer to squash your work and effectively undo all of your mixing decisions.
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« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2016, 06:53:52 am »
I just had my first mastering service from Jesse. I am totally amazed with the quality of my track. He was able to fix my weakness in the low spectrum. I will definitely use his service from now on

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2016, 02:56:27 am »
Mat!! just tsaw this forum from your twitter thi will help me alot. been making electronic music for a few years. but her im a promoter @Sound can i chill with u and watch ur set when you perform

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2016, 08:19:12 am »
Interesting post.

Perhaps mastering is not essential for internet uploads as long as theres 'necessary' stuff on the main output.

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2016, 10:40:12 pm »
I think the best example of no mastering has to be either Passion pit's first ep or Daft Punk's homework (which was mastered on a boombox)

Just the rawness really adds to the whole vibe, they both really feels like they've been recorded in someones bedroom somewhere.

Although SebastiAn's production is literally mastering based and its all compressed as hell
Doesn't stop it from being awesome tho

i know deorro doesn't master

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2016, 11:49:52 pm »
@Mat_Zo I would say it depends on how far you are going with your mix. However, Mastering always add this little touch that make your sound more juicy :)

By the way, if you want to try to see the difference you can send them a track and you'll see the difference before and after  :P www.theartistsfactory.com


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Is mastering always neccesary
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2016, 11:20:45 am »
thats always been my take on the relationship.

so SOP will be the same.

in this case, i still have to determine if what is bothering me is inherently a mix issue, or if its something that is a translation issue that mastering would address.

i assume that if properly mixed, that the material will hold up acceptably on numerous playback systems, it just wont be as loud as mastered material. i still expect that my responsibility in mixing is to get it right, and id love to hear the mastering guy say he didnt have to do much. i dont want to offload responsibility onto someone else, and i would not prefer to have the mix come back from mastering sounding different.

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Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2016, 06:32:19 pm »
Yes if you're selling.

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Is mastering always neccesary
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2016, 01:05:59 pm »
I mostly look at mixing as making it sound great to ME in the control room.

then its up to mastering to make it sound like that AGAIN, for as many down the line systems as possible.