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Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« on: January 06, 2016, 10:53:14 am »
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So..with all productions i guess everything depends on the sound,samples and overall the production on what actually works for each track. With that said tho..as most of us..i struggle with the relationship between kick and bass.
In housemusic i guess it's most common to highpass the bassline to make room for your kick..but how much should you actually cut? Some people say 30hz ..others say 50hz..and then someone else say 100hz. I am simply asking because when i load up a pro track in ableton and look at the frequency analyzer the bassline on certain tracks seems to go well down to around 35-40hz and they still have the low freq kick as well. Another thing is when i play tracks out in clubs..many of them sounds to have a sub bass as a foundation. So this leads me to the question..how is it possible to cut out up to 100hz of your bass and it would still show up in the analyzer like that..and also feel them in the sub on club systems!? It's very confusing...and i guess this topic got a bit confusing as well

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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 12:06:26 pm »
100Hz is a bit too much. Didn’t those people say to highpass everything EXCEPT the sub and kick at 100Hz? That would make way more sense.

I cut everything off at 30Hz and I think it’s fine like that. You lowcut the signal so you get just a bit more headroom in the mix, but if you’re not really running out of space, then it’s just a matter of habit to highpass at 20, 30 or 40Hz.

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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 03:34:43 pm »
Subbass is between 25 and 80 above dat point is the more "Radio Bass" thing , so no you don't cut your bass and your kick at 100hz it just doesn't make sense

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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 04:46:29 pm »
This depends on the club sound system, but I've generally found that a lot cut off around 40hz. So, in general I'd say that whatever your lowest note is, high pass up to there (within reason of course, remember you lowest note should still be audible to a degree).

The lowest I tend to play in my music is around the 35 - 40hz range, so I might high pass up around there for my kick or bass. Use a frequency analyzer if it helps, to actually visualize where things are hitting, and remember to make sure there is room for both kick and bass to breathe free in the mix :)
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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 06:31:22 pm »
definitely do NOT cut at 100hz. I'd say high passing at 30hz would be good in most cases.
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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 12:06:51 am »
Thanx guys! Yeah..i thought it sounded a bit too radical to cut the bassline off at 100hz.so i guess this is really more of level setting issue for me i belive then..level relationship between the kick and bass.

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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 12:20:42 am »
When it comes to the low end, I don't like cutting anything for the bassline. The kick will drive the primary energy, but I like having the bassline provide the groove of the subs. I don't particularly have an issue with the kick and bass clashing, mainly because the volume difference between the two in my mixes is a bit wider than most mixes these days...

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Re: Lowcut/highpass on bass and kick
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 01:34:38 am »
I always pick a kick and bass sound combo that naturally gets along, without much compromise or tweaking. I cut out some of the frequencies below 40/50Hz for the sub and rarely notice any conflicts.