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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2016, 02:34:37 am »
How can I make the bass from Four Tet - Back to The Start? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6bL4t2gUS4

any tips or tricks would be much appreciated!

I thought this was an interesting sound so I had a go at it. Fiddled in Ableton Operator for about 5 min and stumbled on this.
  • Run 2 Sine wave Oscillators in parallel (not modulating each other).
  • Slightly detune one oscillator (Fine = 68) so that the sine waves interfere with each other and you get that wobble.
  • Add feedback (12%) on the detuned oscillator.

Thanks, i'll try this out!

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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2016, 11:43:04 pm »
Can anyone figure out the lead to Armin van Buuren & W&W - D# Fat? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVoiG8LEQ8c)
I cant find a wave form that makes the sound specifically and a pitchbend saw is giving mixed results.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2016, 03:46:54 am »
The horns from The Game ft. Skrillex - El Chapo (clean sample at 3:27)

and i don't just mean like directly sampling them from the track they used (Frank Sinatra - Granada) i mean like how did they get the horns to sound the way they do in El Chapo.

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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2016, 04:41:20 am »
The horns from The Game ft. Skrillex - El Chapo (clean sample at 3:27)

and i don't just mean like directly sampling them from the track they used (Frank Sinatra - Granada) i mean like how did they get the horns to sound the way they do in El Chapo.

I dont think bangladesh directly sampled from the frank sinatra song in the final cut of el chapo. Many hip hop producers sample a song in a demo track and then re-record the sample using better instruments. Also due to the nature of this song being an extra from the games album the documentary 2/2.5 I am skeptical that bangladesh or skrillex would actually call in and record a horn section which leads me to think that a sample library is used. As far as proscessing the horn section is cut at 100-150 hz because the low end is just drums because thats why it bumps in the whip so well. The horns are also present in the middle and far sides of the sterero field so stereo imaging or utilizing a width knob in the sample library player would do the trick. The final brightness on the high end probably comes in the mastering stage I would believe.

TLDR I am not the Horn guy.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2016, 04:54:47 am »
The horns from The Game ft. Skrillex - El Chapo (clean sample at 3:27)

and i don't just mean like directly sampling them from the track they used (Frank Sinatra - Granada) i mean like how did they get the horns to sound the way they do in El Chapo. i got pretty much all the processing stuff you said down though, so i guess i'll just have to copy from the last little bit in the song where the horns just play solo.

I dont think bangladesh directly sampled from the frank sinatra song in the final cut of el chapo. Many hip hop producers sample a song in a demo track and then re-record the sample using better instruments. Also due to the nature of this song being an extra from the games album the documentary 2/2.5 I am skeptical that bangladesh or skrillex would actually call in and record a horn section which leads me to think that a sample library is used. As far as proscessing the horn section is cut at 100-150 hz because the low end is just drums because thats why it bumps in the whip so well. The horns are also present in the middle and far sides of the sterero field so stereo imaging or utilizing a width knob in the sample library player would do the trick. The final brightness on the high end probably comes in the mastering stage I would believe.

TLDR I am not the Horn guy.

ahhh yeah the sample library makes so much sense then, because they did the same thing (at least i believe so) with the intro of the song. if you listen to the sample they supposedly used, "El Gato Montes - Manuel Penella Moreno", it doesn't at all sound the same as the El Chapo intro.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2016, 05:06:48 am »
The horns from The Game ft. Skrillex - El Chapo (clean sample at 3:27)

and i don't just mean like directly sampling them from the track they used (Frank Sinatra - Granada) i mean like how did they get the horns to sound the way they do in El Chapo. i got pretty much all the processing stuff you said down though, so i guess i'll just have to copy from the last little bit in the song where the horns just play solo.

I dont think bangladesh directly sampled from the frank sinatra song in the final cut of el chapo. Many hip hop producers sample a song in a demo track and then re-record the sample using better instruments. Also due to the nature of this song being an extra from the games album the documentary 2/2.5 I am skeptical that bangladesh or skrillex would actually call in and record a horn section which leads me to think that a sample library is used. As far as proscessing the horn section is cut at 100-150 hz because the low end is just drums because thats why it bumps in the whip so well. The horns are also present in the middle and far sides of the sterero field so stereo imaging or utilizing a width knob in the sample library player would do the trick. The final brightness on the high end probably comes in the mastering stage I would believe.

TLDR I am not the Horn guy.

ahhh yeah the sample library makes so much sense then, because they did the same thing (at least i believe so) with the intro of the song. if you listen to the sample they supposedly used, "El Gato Montes - Manuel Penella Moreno", it doesn't at all sound the same as the El Chapo intro.

Yea the funny thing you will learn as you try to recreate more hip-hop/pop songs is that beats are very simple but the pieces of the beat are made wisely and in the most practical way possible. After I learned this I realized electronic music can be created in the same fashion.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2016, 02:09:08 pm »
I've been trying to figure out a section from Lido's Drowning remix, it's at about 1:34,  the duuh - duuh - duh! bit, I can't tell whether the chords are played by a single supersaw synth patch or several. The bass seems like a saw (w/ a sine sub), I believe the mid chords are also a saw and there is definitely a supersaw at the higher end. Any thoughts would be appreciated:




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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2016, 11:42:44 pm »
Hey hey,

Heard a Deep Down Low remix off of Tchami's Insta that he dropped in one of his recent sets (http://iconosquare.com/p/1142861415997435914_427690443), and loved the sound in the drop (reminds me a lot of Moksi, but actually isn't the Moksi remix/mashup). Been trying to find a way to reproduce it so far but haven't been able to. Any ideas?

Oh and while we're at it, if someone could explain the sporadic stab (I guess that's the term, I'm still a bit of a lingo noob, if someone could tell me that'd be sick) between 2:21 and 2:31 or so in this mix (https://soundcloud.com/wearemoksi/moksi-live-on-diplo-and-friends-13-12-2015), that would be really sick.

Thanks in advance :3

It seems that your interested in learning the future house basses that have been gaining popularity because they sound underground af but are also really aggressive. Most of these basses are made either in spire or serum since they can use fm synthesis while other synths use other methods.

Helpfull imformation about synth types
http://tweakheadz.com/software-synths/
http://tweakheadz.com/software-synths/

 There is a tutorial explaing why you cant effectivly use sylenth or massive to make the sound you want here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQVNHsQN444).
Though the stab you pointed out in the mix has a filter on an envelope and some distortion I believe but I am not to familiar with that sound. However I tried to recreate the UFO sounding lead in the tchami remix in spire.
Here is the sound attempt --- https://clyp.it/gb3hy5ze
The sound reminds me allot of some old alien invasion movie so I assumed that it would be a basic sound that older synths could create. Here is a photo of the main osc and also the osc goes down in pitch along with the envelope.



boom...
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2016, 02:59:18 am »
Anyone have any ideas on the bass growl type stuff in Val -Shapeshifter? Seems like it shouldn't be hard to do in serum but I'm having a bit of trouble reproducing it.

Starts right around 0:25


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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2016, 02:50:26 pm »
does anybody know how to make the synth at 1:00 - 1:10. I'm more curious about the fast on and off movement. is it a saw wave with volume modulation? thanks in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01LCiVLbib0

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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2016, 06:59:27 pm »
Anyone have any ideas on the bass growl type stuff in Val -Shapeshifter? Seems like it shouldn't be hard to do in serum but I'm having a bit of trouble reproducing it.

Sounds like a growl that's under a band pass or two, and the LFO on the growl itself sounds like a quarter note in a triangle or sine curve. I think I hear a flanger as part of the modulation but I'd need to mess around to try and recreate it. Mess around with a few different filter combinations and automating their cutoffs in a few different directions, and see how they sound when they're moving in the same vs. opposite directions.

If you check out SeamlessR on youtube, he does a lot of neuro tutorials and you should be able to get an idea of where to go from there.

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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2016, 07:19:28 pm »
Can anyone figure out the lead to Armin van Buuren & W&W - D# Fat? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVoiG8LEQ8c)
I cant find a wave form that makes the sound specifically and a pitchbend saw is giving mixed results.

This tutorial gives you the basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8pvL_LY6Os
However, it would still need a little tweaking.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2016, 07:32:12 pm »
Anyone have any ideas on the bass growl type stuff in Val -Shapeshifter? Seems like it shouldn't be hard to do in serum but I'm having a bit of trouble reproducing it.

Sounds like a growl that's under a band pass or two, and the LFO on the growl itself sounds like a quarter note in a triangle or sine curve. I think I hear a flanger as part of the modulation but I'd need to mess around to try and recreate it. Mess around with a few different filter combinations and automating their cutoffs in a few different directions, and see how they sound when they're moving in the same vs. opposite directions.

If you check out SeamlessR on youtube, he does a lot of neuro tutorials and you should be able to get an idea of where to go from there.

Sweet, I'll give those things a try. And of course, seamless should've been my first place to check, completely spaced out on that.

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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2016, 07:37:15 pm »
does anybody know how to make the synth at 1:00 - 1:10. I'm more curious about the fast on and off movement. is it a saw wave with volume modulation? thanks in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01LCiVLbib0

Almost - it's a saw wave (many saw waves stacked and detuned to be exact) with a lowpass filter cutoff linked to a LFO. Then the LFO's speed is probably automated. Also, it sounds like there's a tiny bit of resonance on the filter. Pretty simple sound that most basic synths well be able to reproduce.
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Re: The "How do I make this sound?" thread
« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2016, 08:53:50 pm »
Hey guys does anyone know how to make that bassy arp around 1:30 min?

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