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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: ADSR courses worth it?
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:04:36 am »
I would 100% recommend signing up for ADSR Courses. I myself still have my subscription after four months, and plan on keeping it.

If you don't want to pay $9.99 every single month what i suggest is paying for one month, and devote that entire month to watching those tutorial videos and take notes. I still have all my notes on every sound design episode, masterclass, so forth. It's invaluable.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Layering Questions
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:00:04 am »
Depends on the kind of music you are making.

Generally with respect to my lead sound (electro/big room) I will use a combination of techniques, including:

1) Play multiple octaves - take the same synth channel, play one in key of D#5 and the other channel D#4
2) Pan two identical synths of the same key with multiple layers (two D#5's)
3) Detune your osc's, and assign a random LFO to detuned osc (around 1%)
4) Pan your synths - Pan one synth in key of D#5 100% left, one D#5 100% right, and then play a D#4 and D#5 in the center

Often I will use lighter synths for the panned 100%, then maybe a heavier different synth lead around 35%, and one straight in the middle. It depends on how your song is sounding you know.

Be open to trying new things. So what if it doesn't work? All you do is go back to the original sound and try something else.. it's never stuck like that you know

For percussion and intros I like to use the panning technique as well. You will be surprised how much room (both headroom and actual musical depth) you can create by playing the same instruments panned anywhere from say 25%-100% left or right. Generally I do not pan toms, snares, hi hats, and other intro elements to a full 100% as it can leave the middle a little empty.

Do not pan your bass.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Song structure & arrangement
« on: January 06, 2016, 10:52:13 pm »
Arrangement can be tricky, I myself certainly struggle with it.

On a similar thread I created I was discussing a quote from D.O.D which said all the promos he receives sound very "generic" - and by that I thought the typical big room house song arrangement. Very predictable, follows a similar structure and you can often see it in the waveform and instrument progression.

1-8 > intro
8-16 > intro + percussion + snare roll,
16- 24 > Impact fx, pluck/filter lead melody, raise filter
24-32 full lead, drums, supersaw/chords
32-40 melody + pre-drop build up
40-56 drop

I think that is a very typical song arrangement. An example -> Hardwell and W&W's "The Dance Floor is Yours"



My biggest issue when making electro/big room house is that I DO NOT want this generic arrangement that is so typical of this genre.

I try to create new arrangements, and yes, it is fucking difficult. The reason being is because the "big room arrangement" works well

> I will provide some tips and tricks I try to use in a little while, but similar to you I really struggle with my song's arrangement.

Take a look at Showtek's 'Slow Down', I think that did an excellent job of staying away from the typical arrangement and proves that many different arrangements are possible.

Focus on what you want to create rather than what others what to hear.

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Hey guys. I'm always curious to hear new opinions and for open discussions. With the creation of Mat's new forum I wanted to contribute with some discussion every day about music.

Today's topic comes from a tweet from producer, D.O.D, who tweeted something regarding how many new tracks he receives as promos often sound "generic."

Rather than having an unorganized Twitter discussion I wanted to bring it here for the true music producers to discuss, not all of Twitter.

There are of course many sub-genres of electronic music, so for each it may help to specify if it applies.




In regards to D.O.D, I was speaking about "big room house"

For example, the song structure and arrangement found in Hardwell and W&W's "The Dance Floor is Yours." As far as "generic" goes, this would be a similar structure I would assume. Same goes for the instruments used in each 8 bar section, etc

> What defines "generic" and how can you avoid a generic structure, so forth?



This could obviously could be applied to many genres so be sure to specify.

Let's discuss

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