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WIPs / Trying to make something that's not edm for a change
« on: November 20, 2016, 08:50:55 pm »
Anybody have any ideas feel free to let em rip. This has officially sold me on Neutron though. Literally zero manual mixing past gain staging.

I'm going to keep this brief(ish).

So arguably the biggest question producers have when they're learning is "How do I sound like ___ ?" or "How do I make my music sound professional?"

It's like the holy grail of every producer trying to make it and what I now realize was a trap I forced myself into for the last 7 or 8 years. I'm sure we can all relate to spending countless hours reading and watching tutorials only to be bummed out after realizing the track you're working on still doesn't measure up. Eventually I felt like a dog chasing my own tail, growing more and more frustrated with mixes and slowly falling out of love with why I started making music in the first place.

Basically this all leads to early this year, when I finally "broke through" sonically. I felt a huge weight lifted and became painfully aware of how misguided my efforts had been. I listen to all of the artists I obsessed over and no longer have a desire to sound like them. Perfectionism is a huge waste of time. All of the surgical eq cuts I'd do took away everything that gave my songs life. The biggest key that I've learned-and something that ALWAYS gets overlooked by producers-is this

Songwriting is everything

Literally everything.

If the songwriting is inspired and strong, everything else always falls into place. Good songs are still good if the production sucks. When you have a good song, you don't ask "Does this need a pluck?" or "How should I fill out the percussion?" The transitions are already naturally seamless. You don't have to force an anemic intro or outro. It all just works. That one tom hit you battle over keeping in or not? Yeah, your listeners wouldn't even question if you removed the drums entirely. The "perfect" version you have in your head doesn't exist. Whatever you release, no matter what's missing, is the perfect version of that song. 

In fact, now that I know how to make pro mix, I find them increasingly boring. Loud, sloppy and over-distorted sound more genuine and desirable to me now. Music is just an emotional expression, and I've learned from my experience that it's not nice. Songwriting is a function of trying to make sense of your life and experiences through audio. Many of those experiences aren't clean; they're not fun. Life is messy. Let the emotion of the song come through. If it doesn't wind up sounding like one of the top 40 producers you look up to it has a better chance of finding an audience anyway. Get your levels right, master it and don't look back.

Now, I'm not here to denounce technique or mastery of engineering, but the truth is those skills will come in time. Understand fundamentally how each of your tools work and find your own way of using them. No truly great songwriter had success escape them because their mix wasn't good enough.

That's all I got for you.

Mixing/Mastering / The Garbage Mix Of Justin Timberlake's Last Song
« on: August 02, 2016, 03:47:18 am »
Obviously I'm talking about the horrible production of Can't Stop The Feeling. Don't get me wrong, it's super well written and catchy (I'd expect nothing less from Max Martin), but Jesus this track takes radio mix to the next level. I assumed at first it was just a matter of listening to a horrible stream, but even in flac it sounds like a mud bomb.

When will record companies realize that spotify and all these other streaming platforms auto adjust song gain so it's okay to put out dynamic mixes that are a bit quieter?

There isn't really an appropriate place to put this topic, but I'm curious if anyone has had the displeasure of having their music stolen or infringed on somehow. I just got a take down notice from youtube because someone else is attempting to release a track of mine from last year on his LP next week. Fortunately, I have everything in place to dispute and have his music taken down, but I'm sure a lot of new producers overlook this stuff. Just want to hear some experiences and hopefully we can guide anyone dealing with this in the right direction.

WIPs / M83 Meets....Journey?
« on: June 15, 2016, 07:19:59 am »
So my band just kinda split and I've had this instrumental (that we were about to track vox on...go figure). The thing is, I'm still in love with it and starting to play around with different lyrics and vocal melodies to finish solo. I was curious if I'm being crazy over nothing and should just move on or...?


So after producing for five years I feel like I'm finally starting to make some headway. This is the first time I've recorded vocals and everything from scratch though so it's still new ground for me. It'd be cool to get some feedback from you guys

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