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Production Talk => Sound Design => Topic started by: 3V on August 09, 2016, 02:13:16 am

Title: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: 3V on August 09, 2016, 02:13:16 am
Hey guys I am trying to get that pitched down vocal affect used in a lot of house but when I warp an acapella in Ableton and use the complex setting, then transpose down, I seem to get an alien sounding affect.

I had forgotten about this issue until I heard a new Aoki track that used a Brandy acapella I had used before. After re-opening my project file I tried to get a similar affect as Aoki but no luck

Mashup I did a while back (would definitely benefit from the deeper vocal affect):
https://youtu.be/6OhmYgLBhbU?t=76


New Aoki track with same acapella:
https://youtu.be/iZxgOsmi1FM?t=23

So basically if I take my version of the acapella and transpose down it sound very alien/munchkin land style.  Whereas somehow Aoki gets a rich deeper vocal.

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: Hymoki on August 09, 2016, 03:27:08 am
A lot of the tone you get out of a pitched vocal comes from the formant shifting of the sample. So if you pitch something down an octave and adjust the formants of the sound, you can retain a ton of the spectrum that wouldn't be there otherwise. Most vocal processors will have this available.
Title: Re: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: 3V on August 11, 2016, 03:22:37 am
Ahhh I think I see what you mean, so by shifting the pitch down, I'm also shifting the formants down.  I once saw a trick by Qulinez I believe where, in order to b able to have his kick play different notes, he would pitch the bass of his kicks down but leave a second track with just the "knock" playing at the original pitch, and a fade to cut off the bass, so that everything was at the same volume. 

Still, that method required each kick to be faded (easy to do as you just do the first one and copy/paste for the rest) but vocals could be trickier.

I'm looking at some vocal processing VSTs and Waves VX1 seems to be popular (and not a bad price).  Would that achieve what I'm going for ya think?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: attila on August 11, 2016, 03:44:09 am
I have better luck with pitching vocals in Nectar or Wavestune. Ableton's transpose function I find is more useful for experimenting or chopping finished vocals into melodies. Not enough control to rely on.
Title: Re: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: ItsChrisBlake on August 28, 2016, 07:10:12 am
Even with using Complex or Complex pro?
Title: Re: Need help getting that deep vocal affect (example inside)
Post by: attila on August 29, 2016, 07:04:52 pm
Yeah it's just not in depth enough. I always get better tones out of Nectar. Like I'm convinced Nectar is what Galantis runs all of their vocals through because it takes no effort to get a nice, smooth sound out of it.