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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2016, 02:23:11 pm »
I start blank, I feel like having a set template kind of limits my creativity. Also, since I'm still pretty new to this, there are still a lot of different ways I can approach things. My goal is not to pump out tracks every day/week, so having a template doesn't really do much for me.
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1. Eliminate boring setup stuff
2. Crack on with actually creating music
3. ? ? ? ?
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As I said, I'm still a noob too and I'm not a fantastic producer (in fact, I feel as if I don't know shit) so take what I say with a barrel of salt but I've found this to be helpful to me, hope it helps you too :D

HIGHLY agreeing with that part, just eliminate the middle man and focus on actually working,

My setup is having a dedicated Reverb send channel and a sidechain channel to route everything I want to sidechain. the master channel just has a multiband compressor, an EQ for cutting the Side at around 150Hz and OZone for Dithering and Intersample Detection. everything else is just adding up to it.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2016, 02:39:24 pm »
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My setup is having a dedicated Reverb send channel and a sidechain channel to route everything I want to sidechain. the master channel just has a multiband compressor, an EQ for cutting the Side at around 150Hz and OZone for Dithering and Intersample Detection. everything else is just adding up to it.

Never thought of having a dedicated reverb send. Possible idiot question incoming: Can you route multiple channels through it and tweak the reverb independently on each one or do they all run through with the same settings?

Also which DAW are you using? Just out of curiosity :)
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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2016, 02:41:20 pm »
My setup is having a dedicated Reverb send channel and a sidechain channel to route everything I want to sidechain. the master channel just has a multiband compressor, an EQ for cutting the Side at around 150Hz and OZone for Dithering and Intersample Detection. everything else is just adding up to it.

How do you even use a multi band compressor properly? I've fiddled with Ableton's dedicated one and I'm still not 100% sure on what scenario you'd use it in. Obviously its useful for the master bus, but in what way?

(Getting back into the thread topic)
I have a very basic setup of a Bad Speaker EQ (for checking out if the track will sound good on phone speakers) and the Analog Tape Strip preset in Ableton because I'm lazy.
Often I add a slight reverb on the master before final mastering takes place too.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2016, 02:42:57 pm »
Never thought of having a dedicated reverb send. Possible idiot question incoming: Can you route multiple channels through it and tweak the reverb independently on each one or do they all run through with the same settings?

Also which DAW are you using? Just out of curiosity :)

I don't think you can tweak them independently unfortunately. But yeah, you can run multiple channels though it

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2016, 02:58:23 pm »
Never thought of having a dedicated reverb send. Possible idiot question incoming: Can you route multiple channels through it and tweak the reverb independently on each one or do they all run through with the same settings?

Also which DAW are you using? Just out of curiosity :)

You can route as many channels as you want, you can tweak how much amplitude levels of reverb each channel will get but not the settings individually, for that you need to add a reverb effect on that particular channel, otherwise everything can route directly to it. :D

And I use FL Studio!

How do you even use a multi band compressor properly? I've fiddled with Ableton's dedicated one and I'm still not 100% sure on what scenario you'd use it in. Obviously its useful for the master bus, but in what way?

Sup Rob <3

I'd use it if I need to do extreme EQ changes to a track, so the multiband compressor keeps it in check so that problematic frequency won't bite me up the ass later, saves time from automating an EQ. on the master track it's just a very basic mastering preset that keeps everything in check and I then back and forth make sure that it doesn't change too much the original sound I intended, and that's it really. I'd really recommend GlissEQ btw, this makes the idea of multiband compression to be much simpler to grasp for a start. later I'd recommend Maximus, ProMB and C4 to check out.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2016, 03:06:32 pm »
Sup Rob <3

I'd use it if I need to do extreme EQ changes to a track, so the multiband compressor keeps it in check so that problematic frequency won't bite me up the ass later, saves time from automating an EQ. on the master track it's just a very basic mastering preset that keeps everything in check and I then back and forth make sure that it doesn't change too much the original sound I intended, and that's it really. I'd really recommend GlissEQ btw, this makes the idea of multiband compression to be much simpler to grasp for a start. later I'd recommend Maximus, ProMB and C4 to check out.

Downloaded GlissEQ, started using and it was like a Lightbulb going off.
Thanks dude!

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2016, 03:10:36 pm »

You can route as many channels as you want, you can tweak how much amplitude levels of reverb each channel will get but not the settings individually, for that you need to add a reverb effect on that particular channel, otherwise everything can route directly to it. :D

And I use FL Studio!

Ahhh I see! I'm glad you use FL as I can visualise more clearly how I'd do it myself. Do you have the reverb sat on a mixer channel with the other channels going through it or do you use one of the send channels on the right side of the mixer and use it in a different way? I've never used those before myself so I'm not confident on how they work, could be missing a trick.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2016, 03:27:27 pm »
I have nothing to start. I use FL and open it, with the basic template, remove everything and then try to make music.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2016, 05:45:29 pm »
TL;DR Version:

1. Eliminate boring setup stuff
2. Crack on with actually creating music
3. ? ? ? ?
4. PROFIT

This was the entire mindset I had when setting up my default templates for Ableton and Maschine. I know for a fact I'm almost always going to want to use Maschine for my drums, and if I want to process the sounds separately I would hate having to spend ten minutes opening sixteen audio track, routing every pad output to Ableton, enabling monitoring on every audio track and accessing the correct audio input, labeling everything...

I think you get my drift. ;) I'd rather just delete the groups and spend thirty seconds loading up Battery instead.

Everyone has some setup that is on almost every single one of your songs. If you go back through your completed tracks and check, I'm sure you'll actually find a few things that become apparent.

Take those and put them in your default template! If you work within specific genres and see certain groups emerge (like a "techno skeleton" and a "feels-y dubstep outline"), why not just save a template for that so you can just tweak a few parameters to how you're feeling?

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2016, 06:04:20 pm »
Ahhh I see! I'm glad you use FL as I can visualise more clearly how I'd do it myself. Do you have the reverb sat on a mixer channel with the other channels going through it or do you use one of the send channels on the right side of the mixer and use it in a different way? I've never used those before myself so I'm not confident on how they work, could be missing a trick.

The first actually, if you use the hardcoded send channels in FL, you can't re-route that channel to something else, for example, I route the Reverb channel to the Sidechain channel, this can't be done using the send channels as they can be only routed to the master.

If you got FL 12, you can dock the bus channels you made to sit with the send channels, so they can always be in view.

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2016, 06:47:01 pm »
My ableton template is super basic (just a drum rack which i usually end up deleting) but the real power comes from track defaults, my default audio track is set to -7 dB and i have an eq 8 on it with a high pass for quickly cutting the bass on sounds that don't need them. It's extremely helpful for mixing.
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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2016, 11:40:04 pm »
PBN template for those interested.

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Hi!
We mix through buses, in this way:
BD+SD - kick and snare go here, through a limiter with 3-4dB attenuation. HATS - hihats, lighter stuff. No limiting. Slight compression maybe. Highpass! PERC - percussion..
These three go trough a DRUMS bus for easy level adjustment of all the drums, and maybe slight compression.
DRUMS - bd+sd, hats and perc busses go through here, as specified. KEYS - Lighter instruments, pads, supersaws, etc.. Most of them will be highpassed at source. Limiter. Sidechain. BASS - Heavier midrange synths, this bus is highpassed between 150-200hz. Limiter. Sidechain. VOX - Vocals go here.. FX - Impacts, sweeps, risers, downlifters etc.. RETURNS - all the send tracks output to this bus, so you can sidechain
All of the above buses (with the exception of bd+sd, hats and perc that go through drums) go through a final bus we call "premaster", where we have our quite simple master chain. It's just an EQ and a limiter. Once our mixes reach this point it is more or less done and just needs to be crushed a little bit.
The degree of sidechaining on the various buses vary with what kind of song you are making. Sometimes you want heavy sidechaining, sometimes you want light sidechaining (especially on lighter elements), and sometimes you even want to automate the degree of sidechaining depending on what section of the song.
PREMASTER - final bus where everything comes together.
The reason for using a premaster for your master chain and not put the plugins on the actual master channel is that you can have reference tunes in your session on tracks that are muted. So say for the drop, you could line up various drops from reference tunes, and quickly solo them to A/B your sound with a reference tune. It's really quick and easy.
!!!EDIT: Finally, the sub. It just goes straight to the premaster, usually just a sinewave, maybe with a little bit of tri blended in, or a filtered down saw to add some harmonics to it. Sidechained and/or faded in waveform aligned with the tail of the kick to avoid phasing issues and amplitude dips.. Makes it sound tight!
We usually route our pads and "lighter" synths to a "KEYS" bus that doesn't necessarily get highpassed any higher than 40-50hz (to allow for potential deep pads to come through in breakdowns) but most of the "keys" instruments will be highpassed fairly high, like 200-500hz, you just gotta set up a highpass, then sweep it upwards until you feel the sound starts to lose its body, then back down a little bit.
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Dynaudio BM5A MK2 :) Or whatever, really. More importantly, use reference tunes, get to know how they sound on your particular monitors and in your particular room. This takes time. Buying en expensive-ass set of monitors will not help you make good songs or good music..
We will start with whatever brings an idea to our minds.. It's kinda hard to explain, but we'll try. Say for instance you're away from your computer, and you get a random melody in your head. You try to capture that and make that into a song.
It's different than sitting down and trying to play something to generate an idea, but we do that too obviously. It's all about getting a concept, a melody, something that you can relate to, and then build off of that. It's usually based around a sample or a melody. We start building various disconnected sections of the song, say the drop, a breakdown, an intro.. After a while you can start piecing them together and make interesting and cohesive transitions. We rarely start by making the intro, then the verse, then the breakdown, then the drop etc.. It's a back-and-forth process, changing things, discarding things you thought you'd use, and using things you never though you would. Hope this helps! :)

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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2016, 11:43:08 pm »
I start blank, I feel like having a set template kind of limits my creativity. Also, since I'm still pretty new to this, there are still a lot of different ways I can approach things. My goal is not to pump out tracks every day/week, so having a template doesn't really do much for me.

I used to be like that and after a while I got tired of adding the same things over and over. So I made a template based on the fact that it is easier to delete something than it is to find and add it. And the flip side of your "limits to creativity", is that you could lose your creativity if you have to add certain things to your project to get to that certain creativity point. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: What is your DAW template?
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2016, 01:10:33 am »
I start blank, I feel like having a set template kind of limits my creativity. Also, since I'm still pretty new to this, there are still a lot of different ways I can approach things. My goal is not to pump out tracks every day/week, so having a template doesn't really do much for me.

quantity > quality at first... ed sheeran explains it perfectly here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDyg_41QF1w

creativity is good, but don't let it halt your progress. it's okay to copy & learn at the start

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Re: What is your DAW template?
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