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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2016, 12:32:53 am »
I usually always use a multiband compressor on my master, but that's about it

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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2016, 05:23:05 am »
Can this be a multi-band expansion topic too? One of my favorite techniques for drums is to boost the "fundamental" of the drum only when the transient hits.

For my snares this is usually at around 200Hz so just boosting there with an EQ would usually sound too boxy, especially if the sample has a longer tail. Using multi-band expansion lets you only boost the initial transient while leaving the rest of the sound untouched.

It also works great for smoothening long drum sample tails that sound too harsh in the top end but nice with the actual drum hit. You can do this with at least the TDR Nova GE and FF Pro-MB

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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 06:21:08 am »
Can this be a multi-band expansion topic too? One of my favorite techniques for drums is to boost the "fundamental" of the drum only when the transient hits.

For my snares this is usually at around 200Hz so just boosting there with an EQ would usually sound too boxy, especially if the sample has a longer tail. Using multi-band expansion lets you only boost the initial transient while leaving the rest of the sound untouched.

It also works great for smoothening long drum sample tails that sound too harsh in the top end but nice with the actual drum hit. You can do this with at least the TDR Nova GE and FF Pro-MB

So instead of lowering the threshhold you raise it essentially?
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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2016, 08:39:53 am »
So instead of lowering the threshhold you raise it essentially?

On technical terms you're actually using a ratio that lowers the sound below the threshold, whereas a compressor lowers the sound above. Then set the threshold so that only the loudest part of the drum (the transient) goes above it. Then you can boost the output gain of the band without boosting anything else than just the transient part on that frequency. It's a bit tricky to explain but works really well in practice.

So on Nova GE you'd use a ratio of below 1:1. On Pro-MB you can just choose the expansion mode for the band.

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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2016, 08:54:56 am »
So instead of lowering the threshhold you raise it essentially?

On technical terms you're actually using a ratio that lowers the sound below the threshold, whereas a compressor lowers the sound above. Then set the threshold so that only the loudest part of the drum (the transient) goes above it. Then you can boost the output gain of the band without boosting anything else than just the transient part on that frequency. It's a bit tricky to explain but works really well in practice.

So on Nova GE you'd use a ratio of below 1:1. On Pro-MB you can just choose the expansion mode for the band.

Oh very interesting thanks!  I was browsing around just now and didn't even realize that in the Ableton stock compressor there was an expansion option.  Will look into pro-mb too since I have that but rarely use it. 
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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2016, 09:20:36 am »
For me, OTT is pretty well known.... but one that isn't used as much is the "Flatline" preset, I find this is great for tightening the low end and I often use the OTT and Flatline in combination (I play around with the wet setting on both).

Give it a go :)

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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2016, 08:24:25 pm »
I find that multi-band compression helps me isolate my bass on my overall track so I can compress everything in the bass frequencies together. I find that with the right amount of compression, this can help your bass really tighten up with no quality loss or sense of "over-compression"

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Re: Multi-Band Compression Topic
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2016, 09:14:06 pm »
turning multiband compressors into multiband gates can give you some really good and cool shit. using them on drum tracks sampled from other songs can really clean shit up.