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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2016, 05:25:34 pm »
Try adding distortion to the sub. Just enough to make it more powerful. A/B for comparison. Make sure when you are checking that when you turn the distortion on and off the signal is at the same level. Anything louder WILL appear to sound better. With the higher bass, distort that also or something to make it stand out. the connection between the higher freq's and low's will help make your bass more present. Hope that helps
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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2016, 08:26:10 pm »
A suggestion for you guys: instead of using a simple sin wave for the sub bass, try adding to it an octave higher sin wave with less than half the total volume of the first osc, because it helps fill the spectrum a little bit (you need to lowpass the entire sub patch to around 100Hz). Of course this has to be done while high passing everything, except the kick, above 120-150Hz. In some cases could sound cool to use a different wave to generate the root note of the sub: for example, you can use a square wave and then low pass it and tame it with an EQ.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 08:38:10 pm by Zenkrey »

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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2016, 01:13:07 am »
consider your levels and the frequency range that your layers are in.

You can't be stacking the same frequency at the same level on top of each other, you just create build up in a bad way (unless you tame it).
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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2016, 09:57:03 pm »
As I posted in the "EQUING the kick" thread - treat your room first (acoustically - bass traps for example) and it will help you make better decisions on that.

This.

I always couldn't really get the kick and the sub right and thought I was doing something wrong. It really got me frustrated!!!

a couple months later I met a guy who's into music as well and moved over to his house. He got his entire room treated (self-made under 500 euro) and I could instantly hear everything much, much better. Guess what, I had little problem getting the Kick & Sub sound good at his place, but not only that.. I could hear everything much better!

You can buy all the best stuff in the world, but for me acoustic treatment would be number one. Even cheap monitor speakers can sound good! :-)
« Last Edit: January 10, 2016, 09:59:35 pm by Ferio »

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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2016, 06:02:33 am »
As I posted in the "EQUING the kick" thread - treat your room first (acoustically - bass traps for example) and it will help you make better decisions on that.

This.

I always couldn't really get the kick and the sub right and thought I was doing something wrong. It really got me frustrated!!!

a couple months later I met a guy who's into music as well and moved over to his house. He got his entire room treated (self-made under 500 euro) and I could instantly hear everything much, much better. Guess what, I had little problem getting the Kick & Sub sound good at his place, but not only that.. I could hear everything much better!

You can buy all the best stuff in the world, but for me acoustic treatment would be number one. Even cheap monitor speakers can sound good! :-)

i know right ! i use that egg shell looking foam + moved my pc to somewhere near the middle of the room. that shit changed how my krk 5 sounds like

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Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2016, 10:13:10 am »
As I posted in the "EQUING the kick" thread - treat your room first (acoustically - bass traps for example) and it will help you make better decisions on that.

This.

I always couldn't really get the kick and the sub right and thought I was doing something wrong. It really got me frustrated!!!

a couple months later I met a guy who's into music as well and moved over to his house. He got his entire room treated (self-made under 500 euro) and I could instantly hear everything much, much better. Guess what, I had little problem getting the Kick & Sub sound good at his place, but not only that.. I could hear everything much better!

You can buy all the best stuff in the world, but for me acoustic treatment would be number one. Even cheap monitor speakers can sound good! :-)

i know right ! i use that egg shell looking foam + moved my pc to somewhere near the middle of the room. that shit changed how my krk 5 sounds like

Do you know this (egg) foam is barely helping at all? Specially in lower frequencies? It's cheap and advertised as acoustic, but it barely does anything.

I see (known) producers on youtube videos with their whole wall covered in this foam, behind the monitors, on the reflection points and most of the time they also have their speakers too close to the wall.

These are common mistakes that I see everywhere.

I wouldn't waste my money on these cheap foam, but rather go for panels and basstraps instead. It's a new world.. :-)