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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2016, 10:13:36 pm »
I personally use a Subpac to mix my low end with Audio Technica ATH-M50 headphones. I used to have a subwoofer as part of my set up but that just caused a lot of issues from poor room acoustics. Your 8" monitors may be too large for your room as well since they have a frequency response down to 35 Hz. (I use 5" monitors since I'm in a small room).

For the kick/bass relationship, tuning your kick to the key of the track will help clear up a lot of things. I also tend to keep my kick short, so I don't have two big sub elements fighting for space.

You have a subpac? How are they? Planning on getting one myself

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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2016, 10:32:09 pm »
In this tutorial i show you how I mix my sub and midbass too. Volume is a bit low but i think it should be audible enough (i hope) - i show the eq and processing on the elements too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD16sQ6Qy2s

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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2016, 01:12:35 pm »

They are great i just wish i could use them properly lol ;)

For the longest time i was using a pair of in-ear skull candies but they seemed to have to much bass so i would naturally make my bass softer. on my monitors its the opposite causing me to make the bass louder. i cant seem to find a happy medium so iv just kind of been guessing. any recommendations?

Those earphones actually have bass boosters which is why it is too loud and heavy. hmmmm if you would have the money i suggest buying decent headphones that have flat responses so that you can hear the basses at the right volume and the sound will be true. if not I think try referencing tracks that have similar basslines and look at their bass frequencies to help you along. Lastly I would suggest using the meters as guide to its volume but also use your ears.

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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2016, 03:13:38 pm »

They are great i just wish i could use them properly lol ;)

For the longest time i was using a pair of in-ear skull candies but they seemed to have to much bass so i would naturally make my bass softer. on my monitors its the opposite causing me to make the bass louder. i cant seem to find a happy medium so iv just kind of been guessing. any recommendations?

Those earphones actually have bass boosters which is why it is too loud and heavy. hmmmm if you would have the money i suggest buying decent headphones that have flat responses so that you can hear the basses at the right volume and the sound will be true. if not I think try referencing tracks that have similar basslines and look at their bass frequencies to help you along. Lastly I would suggest using the meters as guide to its volume but also use your ears.

it looks like ill need to invest in some better head phones. last night i tried using meters to balance out my bass and i was still having issues :-[ im probably just tone def from having a obnoxious sub woofer in my car for the last 4 years lol

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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2016, 11:52:17 pm »

They are great i just wish i could use them properly lol ;)

For the longest time i was using a pair of in-ear skull candies but they seemed to have to much bass so i would naturally make my bass softer. on my monitors its the opposite causing me to make the bass louder. i cant seem to find a happy medium so iv just kind of been guessing. any recommendations?

Those earphones actually have bass boosters which is why it is too loud and heavy. hmmmm if you would have the money i suggest buying decent headphones that have flat responses so that you can hear the basses at the right volume and the sound will be true. if not I think try referencing tracks that have similar basslines and look at their bass frequencies to help you along. Lastly I would suggest using the meters as guide to its volume but also use your ears.

it looks like ill need to invest in some better head phones. last night i tried using meters to balance out my bass and i was still having issues :-[ im probably just tone def from having a obnoxious sub woofer in my car for the last 4 years lol

Good headphones are really worth it and if you take time to search youll find really good deals on them. Bought a audio technica 500pro mk2s and have been using them for 3 years. Got them at a steal too!

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Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2016, 03:13:43 am »

Often times i use 2 separate layers for bass. 1 layer for very low steady/constant notes and another layer for medium-low rhythm/aggressive bass notes. It just crossed my mind now that i don't really have a defining line of when one frequency spectrum starts and the other begins or ends.  :-\

Try using spectrometers on your multiple layers of bass...to visualize the frequencies then go from there to the EQ to have a better understanding of where the freq clash.  How I do it